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<wlb> wayland-protocols/main: Manuel Stoeckl * linux-dmabuf: fix references to tranche_formats https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/commit/4f18a5baeece unstable/linux-dmabuf/linux-dmabuf-unstable-v1.xml
<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !172 merged \o/ (linux-dmabuf: fix references to tranche_formats https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/172)
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<jstone> Has anyone run into missing title bars when running a Qt application with "QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland" ?
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<jstone> From what I can tell, Gnome on Wayland requires your app to provide its own client-side decorations
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<SardemFF7> Wayland “itself” actually requires CSD, because SSD is an optional extension (that GNOME chose not to implement)
<kennylevinsen> it's more accurate to say that there is a protocol for negotiating decorations
<ifreund> I feel like it's not unreasonable for clients to hard depend on such a protocol either
<jadahl> jstone: install QGnomePlatform to make qt applications look "native" in GNOME (not only decorations but everything else too)
<kennylevinsen> strictly speaking, the decoration protocol is no less optional than xdg-shell itself :)
<ifreund> exactly
<jstone> I know, I'm just being very specific about what environment I'm using
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<JEEB> CSD is OK when you already depend on something like GTK+ or Qt or wxWidgets or SDL or whatever, but when you don't... it gets fun :)
<JEEB> it gets even more fun with compositors where with xwayland you get SSDs, but then with wayland you don't. oh well. at least I'm happy even if I don't have decorations, but you do get questions from users :)
<jstone> jadahl, I'm still getting missing decorations after installing qgnomeplatform-qt5 and qgnomeplatform-qt6
<jstone> The app is built with Qt 5.15 as well if that helps
<jadahl> jstone: I suggest asking in some Qt channel then
<zzag> jstone: that sounds like you need to set QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gnome or pass -platform gnome
<zzag> but yeah it'
<zzag> s something to ask fedora devs
<zzag> s/-platform/-platformtheme/
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<MrCooper> ifreund, kennylevinsen: at least around half of desktop Wayland users use GNOME, so GNOME not supporting a protocol makes it effectively optional
<kennylevinsen> didn't say otherwise
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<kennylevinsen> both xdg-shell and xdg-decoration are both optional, and clients can chose to rely on them or support alternatives
<kennylevinsen> but "GNOME does"/"GNOME does not" is not what makes the protocol optional. Not anti-GNOME, insert any other compositor (including sway) and I'd say the same. :)
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<jadahl> saying xdg-shell and xdg-decoration are "both optional" is misleading to say the least. one is strictly needed to write an application since it's the only portable/existing way to create a window, the other is not by any means necessary
<kennylevinsen> There are multiple shells available, but it's the protocol you pick to create a standard desktop window in most compositors. xdg-decoration is what you pick to control decorations, linux-dmabuf is what you pick to use gpu buffers, etc.
<kennylevinsen> out of the available protocols, there's a set that your client needs, and compositors that provide them.
<jadahl> your getting lost in technicalities here
<kennylevinsen> yeah maybe
<kennylevinsen> but my point is that whether a protocol is optional depends on what you need to do, not who implements it
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<daniels> for the intent and use of like 99% of people, xdg-shell is mandatory whilst xdg-decoration is optional
<wlb> wayland Merge request !282 opened by Alexandros Frantzis (afrantzis) client: Warn if a queue is destroyed with attached proxies https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/merge_requests/282
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !177 opened by Jonas Ådahl (jadahl) build: Bump version to 1.29 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/177
<wlb> wayland-protocols/main: Jonas Ådahl * build: Bump version to 1.29 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/commit/6a85dc1b952f meson.build
<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !177 merged \o/ (build: Bump version to 1.29 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/177)
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<wlb> wayland.freedesktop.org Merge request !47 opened by Jonas Ådahl (jadahl) releases: Add wayland-protocols 1.29 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland.freedesktop.org/-/merge_requests/47
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<wlb> wayland.freedesktop.org/main: Jonas Ådahl * releases: Add wayland-protocols 1.29 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland.freedesktop.org/commit/9917555465f4 releases.html
<wlb> wayland.freedesktop.org Merge request !47 merged \o/ (releases: Add wayland-protocols 1.29 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland.freedesktop.org/-/merge_requests/47)
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<SardemFF7> (sorry, forgot the bot was in here too, it was gone for some time this WE as I migrated my server, should be all good now though)
<SardemFF7> (as always, please let me know if anything needs fixing :-) )
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<wlb> weston Issue #691 opened by Derek Foreman (derekf) Stop deferring view transform updates https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/691 [Core compositor]
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<bl4ckb0ne> daniels: any chance of seeing https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20210905122742.86029-1-daniels@collabora.com/ being merged in a foreseeable future?
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