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<wlb> wayland Issue #338 opened by M. Stoeckl (mstoeckl) Stride constraints for wl_shm_pool::create_buffer https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/issues/338
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<pq> What if you want to use normal keys as pointer "modifiers" instead of only "real" modifiers? Why should modifiers be special?
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<MrCooper> to me as a graphics person, it's hard to imagine non-modifer keys being useful as pointer modifiers, since they would also go to the surface with keyboard focus
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<pq> usually (but not always) the keyboard focus is on the same window as the pointer.
<pq> Modifiers are scarce. I can imagine e.g. CAD applications running out of modifiers for different click actions.
<pq> More often that works by clicking to select, then pressing they key.
<pq> would it be better or worse, I don't know (ignoring the fast that different is always worse at first)
<pq> *fact
<MrCooper> I thought this whole discussion started around a case where keyboard & pointer focus are not the same, e.g. using a scroll wheel over a window which doesn't have keyboard focus
<pq> I wouldn't know.
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1057 opened by Marius Vlad (mvlad) shell-utils: Integrate shell-utils into libweston https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1057
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<pq> emersion, do edid-decode maintainers not reply to patches when they merge them upstream?
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<pq> I saw you post a patch, and say it's merged, but no ack on the mailing list.
<repetitivestrain> regarding issue #338, i think it would be better to let the compositing manager specify constraints for the stride
<repetitivestrain> a compositor i'm working on needs the stride to be a multiple of 4
<pq> weston does too, with Pixman
<repetitivestrain> right
<emersion> pq, in the past yes, this time no. but i do receive a private email to say it's been merged
<emersion> (automated)
<pq> aha, thanks
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !170 closed (A Specification for Wayland Fractional Scaling)
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<kennylevinsen> wee, fractional scaling made it through
<emersion> \o/
<ifreund> this has been a pretty wild month for wayland-protocols :D
<emersion> indeed
<emersion> jadahl: maybe we should try to group new protocols if we plan to merge multiple of them in a short timeframe
<emersion> for releases
<ifreund> The idea being to make packaging less annoying for distro maintainers?
<emersion> yeah
<emersion> and also for jadahl!
<ifreund> wayland-protocols is by nature one of the least annoying things that one can possibly package for a distro. With a tiny bit of automation I don't think many will mind
<ifreund> At the very least I package it for void linux and don't mind at all
<emersion> right, and they can always skip a release
<emersion> at least wait for a while before upgrading
<emersion> but still, it's some work
<emersion> i feel bad for e.g. freebsd
<ifreund> yeah, I don't really update the package until something else packaged for void requires a newer version
<emersion> and also arch
<ifreund> fair
<emersion> these require the maintainer to write the patch
<jadahl> emersion: that'll make it harder to catch up to firefox/chrome version numbers
<emersion> as opposed to e.g. alpine where anyone can send a patch and then CI runs
<emersion> jadahl: that's a very good point :D
<emersion> anyways, i don't think another protocol is close to being ready to be merged
<jadahl> i usually skim through if there are landable things, but hard to predict how many more hours/days/weeks/months/years a protocol will take until all parties are satisfied
<wlb> wayland-protocols/main: Simon Ser * governance: improve consistency of ACK requirements https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/commit/813e5c23ed9c GOVERNANCE.md
<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !164 merged \o/ (governance: improve consistency of ACK requirements https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/164)
<emersion> jadahl: so, what should we do with the wl_surafce configure and scale events?
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<jadahl> emersion: the conclusion was to require extensions to explicitly support it right?
<jadahl> do we need a wayland.xml release to land the xdg-shell parts?
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<emersion> jadahl: yeah, extensions need to opt-in
<emersion> jadahl: hm, i guess the risk would be to release w-p, then revert the wayland patch?
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<jadahl> emersion: yea, depending on unreleased things really. since numbers are cheap, it kind of makes sense to postpone until after the next wayland release
<emersion> yea
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<DemiMarie> I hope the other fractional scaling protocol will also make it 🙂
<drakulix[m]> With protocols like screencopy, that write to wl_buffers and have their own events to suggest the copy has been done (ready), is the compositor still expected to send `wl_buffer::release` afterwards?... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/rsHElIHyCGtgInlbFFTFaZwV>)
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<wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * backend-vnc: enable TLS support https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/1a027e63cb4d compositor/main.c include/libweston/backend-vnc.h libweston/backend-vnc/vnc.c man/weston-vnc.man
<wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * libweston: Add user authentication support via PAM https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/0733c8f5715a libweston/auth.c pam/meson.build pam/weston-remote-access libweston/libweston-internal.h libweston/meson.build meson.build
<wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * backend-vnc: Add user authentication https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/133417b016c5 libweston/backend-vnc/vnc.c man/weston-vnc.man
<wlb> weston Merge request !1021 merged \o/ (backend-vnc: encryption and authentication https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1021)
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