#wayland on 2024-09-18 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2024-07-16 04:52 ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput

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07:47 <pq> Extending https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ch05.html would be awesome. WL_SURFACE_ID is there. Sorry I never documented _XWAYLAND_ALLOW_COMMITS.

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14:15 <wlb> weston Merge request !1616 opened by () desktop-shell: Don't try to move parented views on output removal https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1616 [Desktop shell]

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18:52 <ian|> hello. are there any common non-standard Wayland extensions besides XDG shell?

18:54 <llyyr> xdg shell is non-standard?

18:54 <soreau> is xdg-shell non-standard?

18:54 <ian|> well, what i meant was it's not part of the core Wayland protocols

18:55 <bl4ckb0ne> what do you define as "non standard"

18:55 <bl4ckb0ne> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols all of those ?

18:55 <soreau> wl_shell is part of wayland protocol but it's deprecated in favor of xdg-shell

18:55 <llyyr> that would mean the entire wayland-protocols repo is non-standard, by your definition

18:55 <ian|> ok, that repo seems to have all the "non-core" protocols

18:56 <soreau> https://wayland.app/protocols/

18:56 <ifreund> every useful compositor supports much more than just wayland.xml

19:02 <kennylevinsen> ian|: think of "core" as providing some baseline primitives. It can't do anything on its own, with the majority of wayland being outside that

19:02 <kennylevinsen> https://wayland.app/protocols/ provides a nice overview

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19:03 <kennylevinsen> (that "core" contains as much as it does is a past design mistake - wl_shell in particular being so bad that it had to be deprecated)

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19:26 <ian|> does weston support xdg-decoration ?

19:28 <soreau> ian|: if you're running a compositor and want to know what protocol extensions it supports, you can run a client with WAYLAND_DEBUG=1 set and grep for 'global' IIRC

19:33 <ifreund> or use the wayland-info cli tool

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19:35 <soreau> but if you're not running a compositor, you can probably grep for wl_global_create in the sources

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20:04 <DemiMarie> ian|: Weston generally is not used on desktops. It’s mostly used in embedded systems.

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