ChanServ changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
<Jasper[m]>
>He warns
<Jasper[m]>
Oh no
<HdkR>
"send it to the victim by US postal services"
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<HdkR>
No one should be subject to USPS, not even US citizens
<steev>
it's not so bad
<steev>
far cheaper than fedex or ups
<steev>
and i do stan saving money
<HdkR>
Definitely a pretty good take on "You get what you pay for."
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<JensGlathe[m]>
The msi-map completely off experiment ended yesterday evening with HTC Rx errors on the X13s. So at least for my setup this doesn't work.
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<craftyguy>
Which kernel are you using? Also curious which version of the lenovo fw
<craftyguy>
There must be some difference somewhere..
<craftyguy>
ah you're using the lenovo fw that I cannot install heh
<JensGlathe[m]>
Windows ftw
<JensGlathe[m]>
wpa_supplicant as it seems
<JensGlathe[m]>
Firmware is .41
<craftyguy>
ok, I'm using iwd, not sure if that could be why we see different things or not
<JensGlathe[m]>
I have no issues with HTC Rx on the HP Omnibook X14 (x1e, WCN6855, same firmware). Only on sc8280xp
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<JensGlathe[m]>
Now all are running on rc7, no HTC Rx errors yet
<craftyguy>
are you able to try iwd on your x13s? I'm not sure if it'll actually matter, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen one wifi thing do weird stuff that the other one didn't do 🤷
<JensGlathe[m]>
With the msi-map off on pcie4, can do
<craftyguy>
ya with msi-map off on pcie4, then it's closer to what I'm running
<craftyguy>
for kconfig, I'm basically using Johan's defconfig + some extra drivers for stuff, nothing additional that's obviously (to me heh) related to wifi
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<SpieringsAE>
TheBITLINK: With regards to the sd-card reader, I got a basic troubleshooting response from Asus so far, sent back a reply that I'm going to need something more serious.
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<SpieringsAE>
Just got another email from Asus telling me to RMA
<JensGlathe[m]>
huh
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<SpieringsAE>
I don't want to not have it for 1-2 weeks :(
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<JensGlathe[m]>
feel
<jhovold>
craftyguy: I too use iwd, and I've only seen the ath11k issue once in a year...
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<Guest5884>
hi
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<_mike>
!
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<kuruczgy[m]>
Are there other distro projects out there that I am missing?
<macc24>
there's https//github.com/CadmiumLinux/kernel if you need just kernel
<macc24>
kernel stuff in main cadmium repo is bitrot
<kuruczgy[m]>
No, I specifically want to link to whole-distro solutions, a kernel alone is not useful to users really
<macc24>
oh god users
<maz>
fear!
<maz>
also spelled lusers ;-)
<JensGlathe[m]>
My images are... Ubuntu preinstalled Desktop, derived from the RPi images and sort of hand-crafted. I don't favour to do these, but for odd constellations like the SnapDragon Dev Kit its difficult to do an installer ISO without shipping the signed firmwares, too. Which I won't do.
<kuruczgy[m]>
Oh so yours is specifically for the devkit only? Tbh that can probably be considered very niche, given that only like 10 of them ever shipped, including yours...
<JensGlathe[m]>
Otherwise its kernels only, but packaged for Ubuntu.
<macc24>
oh right im also probably the only one who consistently uses cadmium on x1e devices, most of my contributions are just upstreaming stuff
<anthony25>
tobhe_: ^
<JensGlathe[m]>
kuruczgy: yes. ~200. Nonetheless its nice to have a way to bootstrap it, its a fast (and loud) box
<kuruczgy[m]>
macc24: well you are the only one... now. I also started out alone with NixOS, but now there are actually a couple other people using my repo too.
<JensGlathe[m]>
The other multiboot one I'd prefer not to continue. Could be that I do one for the Honor MagicBook 14 Art, but derived from the DevKit one
<macc24>
i'd be happy if it was you who gets one of those, as it needs a bunch of ec work to be usable
<JensGlathe[m]>
I'm out of excuses for buying stuff
<JensGlathe[m]>
Since the Wiki is in the repo, I'd use the wiki link. The dtb required is in my tree. Would be an idea to upstream the additions, though (USB-A IMO)
<JensGlathe[m]>
oh and WCN7850 support
<JensGlathe[m]>
The repo is most recent.
<JensGlathe[m]>
But there's no script to build the image.
<wizzard>
Has anyone been testing steam games on the x elite chip? I got games such as borderlands 2 to run with 60fps on the t14s, but the audio stutters all the time. Any ideas how this can be adressed?
<wizzard>
The audio only stutters, if multiple audio tracks are playing at the same time (dialog and background). Otherwise audio is very good, since I use a usb to aux adapter
<kuruczgy[m]>
I sometimes get very slight audio stutters with Factorio (but that game has bigger issue right now with FEX and needs some hackery to get running), but with other games, e.g. HL2 or Portal 2 I think audio was completely fine.
<anthony25>
hmm sorry, I missed the last part saying you use a dac, so I don't think what I pasted would fix it
<macc24>
wizzard: using fex - i played some the binding of isaac: rebirth and it seemed fine, aside some audio stutters
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<farchord>
kuruczgy: fedora installation on x1e works “kinda” ootb with x1e, but there is someone building jhovold’s kernel in copr for even better compatiblity. Its working “fine” for me with my asus x1e laptop
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<farchord>
Ofc it needs some kernel commandline changes and the dtb added
<kuruczgy[m]>
Are there instructions somewhere for those (preferably the whole install process with any needed modifications)? (I know for us the cmdline options and the dtb are trivial, but I am trying to look at this from the perspective of a newcomer.)
<farchord>
kuruczgy[m]: Mmm.... I'll have to see if you can set a dtb through grubby. It will still require the kernel arguments to be switched on the first boot. But I can look into it
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<kuruczgy[m]>
ok, not urgent or anything. When you have some resource that a new user could reasonably follow and have a good chance of getting a working system I would be happy to add it to my list.
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<tobhe_>
kuruczgy[m]: for Ubuntu concept I guess the discourse post is the closest we have to a homepage
<JensGlathe[m]>
craftyguy: finally managed to get iwd as backend for NetworkManager. X13s is up on 6.13-rc7-1 with msi-map on pcie4 disabled (verified in /proc/interrupts). Should be a similar configuration now, will let it run and see what happens.
<craftyguy>
awesome :)
<craftyguy>
if you still see errors, then maybe we can start comparing kconfig changes, and/or wifi AP config or something
<JensGlathe[m]>
They seem to come in bursts
<craftyguy>
is your network 2.4GHz or 5GHz?
<JensGlathe[m]>
both
<craftyguy>
I wonder if there's a pattern wrt when the errors show up, like if it's connected primarily to one freq band or the other
<craftyguy>
I also operate on both, but I think most of the time my x13s is on 5GHz
<JensGlathe[m]>
doubt it a little. Several APs, one in a bunker-like cellar (the computer room). The builder loved steel mats in its concrete
<craftyguy>
I'm just guessing at this point :P
<JensGlathe[m]>
so external interference is quite well shielded, and you get HTC errors there, too
<craftyguy>
it might not be interference-related /shrug
<JensGlathe[m]>
I would more assume like "unfortunate sequence of events" with interrupts while doing some sensitive stuff in the firmware like setting up some memory or something. Concurrency issue.
<JensGlathe[m]>
n the firmware
<craftyguy>
🤷
<craftyguy>
fw is a opaque, so we'll never know 🥳
<JensGlathe[m]>
truth. Sort of. My experiments with mutex locking the Rx interrupt handler introduced a massive locked section of code which could only be called in one thread. And the fw callbacks that did eventually produced HTC Rx errors the same way, so it probably wasn't the interrupt handler itself. More like the caller (the firmware).
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<icecream95>
I've been trying to write my own very hacky hypervisor for e.g. tracing register accesses, and now have it booting Linux with a single CPU
<icecream95>
Trying to bring up another core is the first time I've ever seen a system stay up after a kernel panic!