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<icecream95>
kuruczgy: It's integrated into slbounce, so the ExitBootServices hook is modified to start the hypervisor after getting to EL2. To the bootloader it should look like nothing has changed (since it is going from EL1 to EL1).
<icecream95>
Unfortunately Windows fails before starting the kernel debugger, but maybe I can try /bootdebug
<icecream95>
It reboots after making some secure launch SMC calls, so probably the issue is there anyway.
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<icecream95>
anonymix007[m]: I'd rather virtualize Windows than the qcom hypervisor, because at least the former has symbols available and can run in QEMU (and might not absolutely require nested virt). But it could be a backup approach if Windows is too insistent on booting "securely"
<smoorgborg[m]>
<JensGlathe[m]> "This one I guess https://lore...." <- That is part of your 6.13.3 build, right?
<JensGlathe[m]>
No not yet afaik
<smoorgborg[m]>
<pleading doggy eyes>
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<JensGlathe[m]>
Errm the Vivobook has no touchscreen? odd
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<SpieringsAE>
nope, why is it odd?
<JensGlathe[m]>
Well I thought so, but nope
<JensGlathe[m]>
SpieringsAE: Finished up merging dp altmode support into the vivobook dt, wanna test?
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<JensGlathe[m]>
smoorgborg: The patch was already in there
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<\[m]>
Treibholz you can't convert the ubuntu to debian - I thought you could
<\[m]>
someone tried to compile AMD mROC on aarch64?
<anthony25>
(he forgot to write that only h264 is supported, but heh it's ok :p)
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<Treibholz>
\[m]: probably I could just use the snap on debian... But I want to get rid of Ubuntu BECAUSE of snap, so that doesn't make sense :-) Right now I'm "abusing" a fedora-firefox in distrobox, to get the evil widivine-stuff running. I'm too stupid to inject it to the snap.
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<albsen[m]>
Treibholz: here is a quick how to do this using nix package manager: https://pastebin.com/QhYzLAqv let me know if it works. haven't test it
<Treibholz>
albsen[m]: the widevine-cdm package in nix is x86_64-only.
<tobhe>
Treibholz: let me see if I can help figure out how to inject it
<steev>
\[m]: you can convert it, but it's a pita because of package epochs
<\[m]>
Treibholz: just uninstall all snaps and install them through apt?
<steev>
ubuntu doesn't provide some apps as anything but snaps these days
<\[m]>
wasn't your blog lost?
<steev>
the blog itself is hosted (handwavey) in the cloud - what was lost was me being able to just edit a file, and then git commit it to push it to the website
<steev>
and that was apparently back in 2021, and i didn't realize how much time pased
<\[m]>
if you purge snapd it removes all packages too?
<\[m]>
all hail the cloud for not losing our shit 🙂
<steev>
no idea, i don't use ubuntu.
<\[m]>
that blog is useful af tho, thanks
<steev>
it's usually the epoch change that is the gotcha (normally users don't see it)
<steev>
debian's version might be something like 24.0.1 but really it's 0:24.0.1 and ubuntu would have their own package and their version is 1:24.0.1
<Treibholz>
\[m]: there is no firefox in the Ubuntu deb-repo anymore. Just the snap. This is currently just an inconvenience for me. I will try trixie from time to time (separate partition) and when it's frozen, I will (probably) end my Ubuntu experiment, or accepted it...
<steev>
you could enable debian unstable for only firefox package
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<steev>
https://paste.debian.net/hidden/7e2c964a/ is what i do here with my personal kali machine (because we default to firefox-esr because it lets us disable anything calling home by default and that's our default policy)
<anthony25>
for a laptop usage, I don't expect it to break anything considering that it aligns the behavior with x86 laptops, but I don't know if it would break anything for other usecases
<Treibholz>
steev: this might work okeyish, when you are on testing, but will very like create a horrible dependency hell, when trixie gets stable (not at once, but maybe after a few months).
<anthony25>
I recommend using distrobox
<anthony25>
that's what I do on Tumbleweed, I need to open a bugreport for it but Firefox is extremely buggy on Tumbleweed (threads crash every 3 seconds) when I have no issue with Firefox on Fedora in distrobox
<steev>
anthony25: ah that was you, i just saw that :)
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<steev>
also works here on my x13s
<anthony25>
steev: it's maybe not a good way to do what I mean in my patch, however, so I'm really open to any comment on how to make it cleaner (if the goal of the change looks ok)
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<steev>
anthony25: i'll let others (pretty much anyone) smarter than me chime in. i'm more monkey brain knows how to apply a patch and test things
<anthony25>
haha! no worries, thanks
<tobhe>
is there a way to find out if my widevine works?
<steev>
play drm content?
<steev>
all i know of there is netflix, and i don't have widevine stuff here
<tobhe>
guess I'll need to sign up for a trial
<albsen[m]>
where can I find what I need to extract from the windows installation? for xelite t14s
<Treibholz>
steev: netflix doesn't work here on aarch64 (at least not in the browser), although widevine itself works (Demopage, Amazon Prime, Disney+). Probably I have to play around with the user-agent-string, to mimic a chromebook...
<Treibholz>
albsen[m]: on the x13s, I just checked which fw-files could not be loaded according to dmesg, then `find /mnt/win -iname \*filename.bin\*`
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<smoorgborg[m]>
does usb OTG on the t14s work? usb-a to remote laptop, usb-c to t14s. not inquiring about gadget drivers, just port switching
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<Jasper[m]>
I've seen someone mention having to manually set it to gadget mode
<Jasper[m]>
recently
<JensGlathe[m]>
konradybcio: This is the dmesg of the ThinkBook 16 after boot and running for an hour or so https://pastebin.com/une5JVhB
<JensGlathe[m]>
albsen: Do you have any crash data?
<HdkR>
\[m]: I use the cards with a Jetson Orin board, which provides a PCIe slot. Will be upgrading that to a Jetson Thor whenever it releases this year.
<gwolf>
Ohai!
<albsen[m]>
Jens Glathe: it's frozen right after grub so likely no. and screen is stuck.
<JensGlathe[m]>
Oh that one is probably out of the kernel range, more like grub magic
<JensGlathe[m]>
Tried the USB-A memory stick workaround?
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<albsen[m]>
I have a working install, so I just turned it off and selected the previous 6.12 kernel
<gwolf>
Quick (hopefully!) question... A Debian maintainer approached me to see if I could help him test his code; he is the author of a language and ~ framework (Storm), and the application I know he showcases it with is a process simulator called Progvis
<JensGlathe[m]>
huh. Checked the kernel params, boot entry?
<tobhe>
albsen[m]: wifi should normally work, but there might be a bug that causes it to not come up sometimes
<gwolf>
He asked me for help checking whether PAC-enabled ARM chips were able to correctly run his code
<gwolf>
but turns out the Lenovo C630 is not PAC-enabled...
<gwolf>
Does anybody know which machines would have this feature available?
<albsen[m]>
Jens Glathe: I've not changed anything, right after fresh install. I didn't invest time after the crash, just uninstalled. :)
<gwolf>
Would any of you be willing to help him test this?
<albsen[m]>
tobhe: makes sense, thats why it works as expected once installed. had a similar issue on my x13s if wifi doesnt come up reload the module a few times until its back.
<maz>
gwolf: pacia1716 is not in the NOP space, so you'll get an UNDEF if PAC isn't there.
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<gwolf>
Right, that's what I understand... Although I'm never much at ease parsing and interpreting assembler :-]