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<chadmed> mps: the default should absolutely 100% be schedutil
<chadmed> especially once we enable EAS in prod kernels
<chadmed> no other governor will work as intended in that scenario
<mps> chadmed: yes, I know. but for now conservative scheduler works fine for me, less heat and somewhat longer battery time
<opticron> is there work to be done to enable the EAS scheduler?
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<j`ey> I thought it was already on, since we added the dmips stuff to the DT?
<j`ey> but,.. chadmed just left, and he was the one that added those values to the DT
<jannau> I think the microwatts values for the operating states are missing
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<mps> do anyone have problem of dim display after exit from dpms blanking on mpb j293 model
<mps> wit gpu driver enabled
<mps> with*
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<jannau> mps: probably a known issue, workarounds are using wayland or let the display at least 3 minutes in dpms off
<jannau> if the issue is that the display brightness is minimal after dpms wakeup
<mps> yes, very dim
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<mps> increasing brightness by one step restore it to normal
<mps> even writing previous value fixes it
<mps> and for now I don't use wayland
<mps> jannau: it is not big problem, just wanted to ask is it appears only for me
<mps> (and for my daughter)
<mps> I set hotkey to restore it to normal after wakeup
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<jannau> it seems to be a firmware bug. if the dcp is shutdown less than 3 minutes, dcp doesn't restore the backlight brightness. We update the brightness on wakeup but that doesn't work either
<mps> aha ok, I will follow more this behavior
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<mps> another issue on j293 model, left speakers works but right doesn't
<mps> did I fried right ones :\
<mps> hm no, they worked last time I booted macos
<mps> have to check again
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<ncopa> i have 18% battery today, after 5.5 hours of use, with schedutil cpufreq governor
<ncopa> i havent done any kernel compiles though
<ncopa> and the laptop feels warm
<mps> hm, I tested mbp j293 on battery and for one hour it drained only only 3 percent, though not used it for anything serious in this hour
<mps> j293 is one of the first m1 macbooks
<mps> and last night I put m1pro in sleep, and in morning after about 8 hours battery drained to 57%
<mps> though I use gpu enabled kernel on both
<ncopa> i dont know if it can be fixed with kernel config or other kernel setting
<mps> well, current linux kernel is not battery friendly ime
<ncopa> the alpine linux-asahi kernel?
<mps> asahi kernel
<mps> nothing specific to alpine
<ncopa> but only have 6 hours of battery life is pretty bad for this machine
<ncopa> i would have expected the double
<mps> as I told I found that conservative cpufreq governor for now is best
<mps> ncopa: yes, big difference compared to macos kernel
<ncopa> "In terms of battery life, Apple says the 14-inch MacBook Pro can deliver up to 18 hours of battery life when playing back video. The 16-inch model adds four hours for 22-hour battery life when playing back video."
<mps> maybe someone could prove me wrong, I will be happy
<ncopa> thats why i ask here, is 6 hours for mbp 14 normal with asahi kernel or is our kernel config just bad?
<ncopa> i see we have things like 1000hz etc
<mps> but regarding a year ago now it is a lot better on battery
<ncopa> i bet we can tweak our config
<mps> would like to hear from other distro experience
<mps> ncopa: when I created config for alpine I did it with minimal options/drivers but over time users asked to enable more features
<jannau> there is nothing wrong with the kernel or distro. m1/m2 devices are with the current state very energy efficient. m1 pro/max devices not so much
<ncopa> so 6 hours battery time is to be expected?
<mps> ncopa: you can compare config with official asahi distro here https://github.com/AsahiLinux/PKGBUILDs/blob/main/linux-asahi/config
<ncopa> mps: i know, will have a look at it next week
<ncopa> the laptop is warm, all the time. even if I close the lid
<ncopa> with macos its not warm
<mps> suspend works only in s2idle
<jannau> it's in line with my experience. it's not constantly warm here but it is from time to time
<jannau> try `echo -n 'Y' > /sys/module/macsmc_power/parameters/log_power`, with the dev kernel that logs power usage to the kernel log
<mps> idk know much about macos but I think their video playing is more optimized than linux
<ncopa> i will look at it next week. thanks! have a nice weekend!
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<cy8aer> @mps probably macos decodes videos via hardware decoder and this is not supported in asahi yet?
<cy8aer> but this is already WIP
<cy8aer> Oups sorry, just TBA yet, sorry
<mps> cy8aer: I expect that apple have video decoder in hardware (else it will be strange to not have it) though I don't know
<cy8aer> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support (Video de/encoder). Yep, it is
<mps> ah thanks
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<chadmed> j`ey: we had the old values in asahi and they were wrong so m a r c a n nixed them
<chadmed> the numbers in that commit come from the smc key that measures only AP power consumption so theyre much cleaner
<chadmed> also it wasnt working in asahi anyway since there were issues with the original way opp-microwatt was grafted on to the opp subsystem
<chadmed> that was fixed for 6.2 so theres nothing blocking eas now
<mps> is this patch from asahi or from some other project https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/E5D8BEBA-3C5B-460F-BD2C-39470A793CC3@live.com/
<mps> [PATCH 0/3] Touch Bar and Keyboard backlight driver for Intel Macs
<mps> sam_: so not related to asahi
<chadmed> also just fyi EAS is not a silver bullet for the energy consumption on t600x machines. it helps massively dont get me wrong, but the big wins are going to come from PSCI/deep idle and AVD
<chadmed> AVD is stalled because the firmware is annoying and i think Jamie and R were planning on just writing their own and REing the underlying hardware
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