05:23 <Glanzmann> jtolio: https://tg.st/u/screenshot-air-2023-02-22-06_15_53.png

05:24 <Glanzmann> Just tested google meet in firefox under xorg/fvwm2 on Debian testing with all updates applied. Works for me.

05:24 <Glanzmann> This was on the m1 air. On my mini xorg doesn't start at the moment, no idea why.

05:29 <Glanzmann> I downgraded the kernel on my mini to the one that I have int he Debian repository (6.1.0-asahi) and now xorg works again. So it was the kernel.

07:27 <cy8aer> marcan told something in #asahi-gpu that xorg looks like broken at the newest kernels.

07:44 <Glanzman1> cy8aer: I see. I'll try the next asahi kernel release. Maybe I have more luck.

07:45 <cy8aer> Glanzman1: do you really still work with xorg? Is there a special workflow which needs it?

07:46 <Glanzman1> cy8aer: Yes, I use fvwm since 1994 and not going to change that. A very good friend of mine uses WindowMaker. Which is also not available for wayland. As a result he will also stick on xorg.

07:47 <cy8aer> Ah, I see.

07:48 <Glanzman1> cy8aer: At least for intel or amd gpu, you can enable tearfree and it works at least for my usecase (terminal, browser, mupdf, xfreerdp, mpv): https://pbot.rmdir.de/TBqEJojh3h9X0PbpfaWOWQ

07:48 <cy8aer> What you would need would be a simple compositor which only offers XWayland

07:48 <Glanzman1> cy8aer: I also have a very customized config with has 81 key combinations that let me focus, start, move, tile, hide, ... windows.

07:49 <chadmed> Glanzman1: probably worth keeping in mind that no one here is actively going to put effort into fixing xorg bugs from here on out

07:49 <chadmed> its fundamentally broken given how DCP works

07:49 <Glanzman1> chadmed: I know. That is why I no longer use the mini has my workstation and use an amd gpu which just works.

07:51 <Glanzman1> I recently switched to: https://pbot.rmdir.de/SDC2o1VQ5mNZ0sbu8a0m8w

07:54 <Glanzman1> The only thing I don't like about the setup, is that the board can't do 128 GB ECC RAM. But 64 GB RAM is enough for a workstation considering that I need 99% of time less than 8 GB. And soon there will be other boards which support ecc ram.

13:23 <opticron> cy8aer, another reason to use xorg is that barrier/synergy don't work on wayland

13:24 <cy8aer> opticron: ok, I see.