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<ChaosPrincess>
chadmed: i think thats for you ^ :P
<chadmed>
oh hang on
<mps>
ChaosPrincess: yes, sorry
<chadmed>
mps: did you mean like, in general use?
<mps>
playing video with mpv, and control alsa with alsamixer
<chadmed>
if so i completely misunderstood, i thought you meant they stopped working after waking up from suspend
<mps>
ah, no
<chadmed>
yeah youll need pipewire and the DSP stuff to get tweeters and the opposed woofers
<mps>
sorry. it worked after suspend fine for last few kernels
<chadmed>
yeah those woofers should stay fine
<mps>
after resume*
<chadmed>
the tweeters and one of the opposed woofers are usually the ones that disappear after resuming
<chadmed>
those patches fix that, but you wouldnt notice since you use alsa by itself
<mps>
but without these patches right woofers didn't worked
<chadmed>
hmm interesting
<mps>
and on j293 right speakers also didn't worked
<chadmed>
either way, if you want tweeters and the opposed woofers without pipewire you can have a look at what i do in pipewire and try to copy the routing with an asound.conf
<chadmed>
be warned though, the results are not good
<mps>
in 10 minutes I'll upgrade j293 to kernel with these patches and check
<chadmed>
and you run the risk of melting your tweeters because theres nothing protecting them except the HPF inside the codec
<mps>
iiuc announced speakerd will make it work safely without pipewire?
<chadmed>
yeah once thats ready you shouldnt have any safety issues
<chadmed>
it will all still sound terrible though
<chadmed>
the DSP really is essential
<chadmed>
i would recommend looking into setting up pipewire and pipewire-alsa
<chadmed>
it sets up pipewire as the default alsa sink then lets pipewire/wireplumber handle the rest behind the scenes
<mps>
well, my hearing is damaged long ago, so I'm not sure I will notice differences ;)
<mps>
chadmed: and no changes on j293. right front/rear speakers don't works
<mps>
but don't take it seriously, this j293 survived washing so I'm never sure what are real problems on it
<chadmed>
its probably the way the drivers are routed in the driver/wired up on the i2c buses
<mps>
though under macos speakers works fine on it
<chadmed>
unfortunately this is part of the reason we cant support stuff like pure alsa and pulseaudio
<chadmed>
they just arent really capable of papering over this kind of stuff
<chadmed>
(in a maintainable and sane way)
<mps>
hm, then I should learn to set pipewire on these machines
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<mps>
is the plain distro pipewire setup enough?
<chadmed>
eventually it will be yes
<chadmed>
at the moment no because i rely on a downstream branch of wireplumber
<mps>
installed it and run. need to find how to control it
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<chadmed>
pipewire-alsa will install an asound.conf that makes pipewire the default alsa sink
<chadmed>
so whatever you do for alsa will control pipewire
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<mps>
chadmed: I was wrong. on j293 model right speaker also work, played with Right Front ASI1 Sel in alsamixer and set it to Right and got sound from it
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