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<marcan> povik: the PA thing was a PA bug as far as I can tell (regression as of dec 2021). there was also a cs42l84 bug I just fixed (see bits branch)
<marcan> also the UCM config for the Mac Studio needs a fix (ASI stuff should only be set inside the conditional for speakers present)
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<marcan> new kernel + pulseaudio packages pushed with the fixes
<marcan> povik: let me know if you want to move the ucm repo under the org so we can both push :)
<rickybobby23> devmem2 crashes my box -- anything I can do to help debug?
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<marcan> rickybobby23: if you're trying to access registers, it's not supposed to work
<marcan> apple silicon platforms require device-nGnRnE mappings for IO, it cannot be done with mmap
<marcan> so basically "don't do that"
<rickybobby23> Wow til.
<rickybobby23> Would a patch for a guard be of interest? Ie so the system doesn't totally freeze
<marcan> not really, if you enable devmem its user is supposed to be able to kill the system by design
<rickybobby23> Fair enough, except that whereas on another system, there are commands that wouldn't crash things -- here it seems virtually anything will crash the system
<rickybobby23> ie devmem2 commands
<rickybobby23> I'm not an expert on linux apis though so take with grain of salt
<marcan> I'm not entirely sure how the VM / devmem system picks IO mapping modes, but since these SoCs actually require different modes for different things (some PCIe stuff needs to be nGnRE), it would require a UAPI change to expose this via mmap and a change in devmem to let you specify that, to support it properly
<marcan> and I'd say there is ~zero chance of that happening just so people can use devmem
<marcan> if you want to play around with device registers, that's what m1n1 is for (which using the hypervisor you can even do while linux is running)
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<marcan> looks like they left, but actually it looks like the devmem path does use nGnRnE? so it probably should work for real MMIO?
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<marcan> lol, devmem2 only has byte/halfword/word options which map to 8/16/64 (!) bits
<marcan> I tried it, it actually should work as far as I can tell, other than not being able to specify 32 bits and the vast majority of MMIO being 32-bit only
<marcan> so yeah, that tool is broken
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<chadmed> hey hey we're down to 198 patches on top of 6.1-rc1 vs 440 on top of 6.0-rc6
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<marcan> did we really drop that many? or was it some large noisy thing?
<_jannau_> asahi-6.0-rc6-1 contained sound/6.1 for dependencies. that was probably around 200 commits
<marcan> there you go
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<marcan> that said, please test since I intend to go into upstreaming mode again after this release is pushed to users
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<_jannau_> except for the tps6598x i2c irq issue no problems on j493
<_jannau_> I managed with the kde volume applet to set voulme one point quieter on the right channel
<chadmed> oh hey new kernel fixes speakers on j314 too!
<chadmed> could it actually have been i2c being too slow without interrupts?
<chadmed> ucm stuff still borked with pipewire but i can live without it for now until we work out whats going on there
<chadmed> oh ok it doesnt fix it fully but the samples buffer faster than they used to
<marcan> the new kernel has povik's patch to fix the channel count issue
<chadmed> yeah i noticed that, samples are still going through at ~half the speed they should even when everythings clamped to 96kHz
<_jannau_> I count 199 patches on top of v6.0-rc6 ignoring patches in asoc-6.1 (which probably misses a few patches we would have carried)
<chadmed> git rev-list v6.1-rc1..asahi-6.1-rc1-2 | wc -l gave 198
<marcan> jannau: atcrt = ATC retimer
<marcan> it's the usb3/tb buffer chips
<marcan> re the tps, remember we already determined you can DoS them if you talk to them too fast
<marcan> so I wouldn't be surprised if we need sleeps
<marcan> I can't repro on m1air though
<chadmed> playback_AUX6, playback_AUX7 :P
<chadmed> well _less_ extra channels is still progress
<sven> jannau: hm.. we've had issues with the tps chip before when we were spamming it too fast
<sven> I bet there's some path in tipd/core.c that does just that
<sven> tps6598x_exec_cmd possibly. it seems to poll for command completion instead of relying on the irq e.g.
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<povik> 06:55 <@marcan> povik: let me know if you want to move the ucm repo under the org so we can both push :)
<povik> let's see what i need to do to initiate the move
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<povik> i pushed the 'Transfer' button, at first it seemed like i don't need any permissions on the target side, just that the new owner will need to approve it
<povik> then i got 'You don’t have the permission to create public repositories on AsahiLinux'
<povik> *shrug*
<povik> marcan: feel free to create it under AsahiLinux and push the current contents, giving me push permission
<povik> i can delete mine later
<povik> chadmed: haha
<povik> how does that come about, i wonder?
<povik> bet it's the bclk ratio divided by slot size
<chadmed> the failure mode re samples being messed up does resemble that. i did some testing with various mclk values when they were still in the DT and the same thing happened back then
<povik> ah of course
<chadmed> no idea about the extra channels though, thats a relatively new thing
<chadmed> does num_codecs include the jack channels?
<chadmed> if not then nslots should be fine... right?
<povik> chadmed: earlier, when you opened it for 32 channels, you got the 'digital noise' sounds because it was misconfigured at MCA level -- the no. of channels couldn't be supported under the TDM parameters commanded to MCA by the machine driver, so it scrambled the samples across channels
<povik> now MCA constrains the no. of channels so it can't enter the digital noise failure mode, but it doesn't all need to be usable channels
<povik> i thought the machine driver commands an nslots higher than is used
<povik> chadmed: but you are right, nslots should be 6 there
<povik> so where do those two channels come from?!
<povik> we are looking at old macaudio.c
<povik> here we should be looking
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<povik> or rather here
<povik> yup, bclk divided by slotwidth
<povik> case closed
<povik> chadmed: you can open it for two more channels, but it shouldn't be outright broken like before
<chadmed> yeah intelligible music did come out
<povik> does it sound good?
<chadmed> no it sounded like a vapourwave album (which like i said is progress over before)
<chadmed> running samples through at ~half speed and cutting out every couple of seconds
<chadmed> so same failure mode, just less severe
<chadmed> pipewire can do enough to route the convolvers to their correct channels, but those two extra phantom ones still seem to be blowing something up
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<sven> jannau: can you try to put the sleep into that loop here? https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/blob/asahi-wip/drivers/usb/typec/tipd/core.c#L316
<sven> I can't seem to reproduce the hang on my mini
<sven> but that loop is spamming the tps chip with reads which we know is a bad idea
<sven> if that works we should enable the command completed interrupt and use that instead of the busy loop
<_jannau_> no, doesn't help. Are you testing baremetal?
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<sven> ah, nope
<sven> maybe the hv slows everything down just enough
<sven> can't really test bare metal anymore since Apple added that fake HW uart kext
* sven should write a patch that allows to send the VDM commands from linux
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<marcan> wifi s2idle works \o/
<marcan> ... I basically had to implement a pile of features that bcmdhd supports, because I guess the broadcom guys are too lazy to actually maintain the upstream Linux driver to modern features
<j`ey> so nothing apple specific in the end?
<marcan> no, everything I implemented was already in bcmdhd
<maz> is btcohab part of this?
<marcan> so far I don't think we've implemented *any* apple-only features whatsover, in the entire pcie series
<marcan> it's all been "shit broadcom has been doing in bcmdhd"
<marcan> *entire wifi series
<marcan> except the OTP
<marcan> the OTP and firmware selection is the only funny apple thing
<jannau> so no more excuse to skip rpm in new drivers
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<jannau> marcan: sd reader was working at some point on the mac studio, I think
<marcan> maz: btcoex? no, that's actually already working I think, but I think it needs a change on the *BT* side to mark audio connections are prioritized first
<marcan> and then the wifi side will want some changes to play well with that
<marcan> jannau: might be a regression
<marcan> (or my SD card is borked)
<marcan> the funny btcoex stuff does seem to be apple-exclusive, but when I tried to implement it it didn't help much, so I think we really need the BT side flag first
<marcan> (cc sven)
<maz> marcan: ah, yes, that's how it's actually called. yeah, I expect it to be a two-way thing. I bet this stuff only exists in Android otherwise...
<marcan> it exists in brcmfmac already, somewhat, but done differently to how apple does it
<marcan> apple actually sends wifi commands when the BT side starts streaming, which is going to be... fun to wire up
<marcan> but that may not quite be necessary for a first shot
<sven> yeah, I’m not looking forward to btcoex
<sven> maybe once I’m annoyed enough with this DP and thunderbolt stuff again
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<sven> if anyone else wants to take a look at it: you can use PacketLogger from the additional XCode tools to trace all bluetooth commands from inside macos
<sven> then there's https://github.com/seemoo-lab/internalblue/blob/master/internalblue/hci.py which contains a list of essentially all vendor specific commands that existed a few years ago
<sven> (apple included them in a plist inside packerlogger or however that thing is called :D)
<sven> when I looked at it it sent a suspicious command just before it started streaming audio
<sven> so the initial hack is probably to sniff BT traffic inside hci_bcm4377 and just inject that command before the audio stream starts
<Foxboron> All the mkinitcpio patches Asahi is using, is everything upstreamable? are they submitted?
<_jannau_> Foxboron: I think there's only a single patch which is as patch in the archlinux arm pkgbuild. It is ignored upstream since march
<_jannau_> s/march/january/ (30th) https://github.com/archlinux/mkinitcpio/pull/86
<Foxboron> nothing beside that?
<Foxboron> I'm asking because I'm aware of the upstream issue and probably going to solve that soon'ish
<_jannau_> there's a config of which modules to to include
<_jannau_> hmm, I never noticed that one. that might not be in the archlinux arm pkgbuild
<Foxboron> Thats what spurred my question :) I had originally spotted your patch
<_jannau_> #86 is probably superseeded by #112
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<Foxboron> _jannau_: nl6720 and me will work on mkinitcpio stuff on Saturday fwiw :)
<_jannau_> compression support isn't that important to us anymore since we ship uncompressed kernels for sd-boot compatibility
<_jannau_> not sure if we need compression support for EFI_ZBOOT
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<marcan> pushed the wifi S3 fixes to asahi-wip and the bits branch. I'm not going to enable suspend in the arch kernel yet, but feel free to try it if you're building your own kernels.
<marcan> right now I think the only functional wakeup source is the SMC button/lid
<marcan> povik: I suspect the mca errors are because the clocks are off? we might have to add code to mca to bring up clocks (dummy ones) around rpm resume so the power states can change properly, or otherwise change the pmgr code so it doesn't complain about this particular case
<sven> nvme-apple 27bcc0000.nvme: RTKit: Unknown system endpoint: 0x0a <-- huh, looks like at some point they updated the ANS firmware and it also got that endpoint
<marcan> yes, it's been there at least since ventura I think
<marcan> I think that came with the same update that broke things in uboot
<sven> guess I just never noticed then
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<marcan> btw, the wifi stuff is 8 new patches because I broke it up, but given my previous experience upstreaming this stuff, I'm tempted to squash them into 2 or so...
<joske> marcan: oh goody, rebooting
<marcan> since upstream net apparently doesn't like reviewing "big" patch series, where "big" refers exclusively to the number in the subject line
<marcan> joske: ?
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<joske> building kernel with suspend :-)
<Foxboron> _jannau_: I haven't wrapped my head around the EFI_ZBOOT stuff yet :/
<SSJ_GZ> marcan: Great work, as always :) Are there any figures on s2idle power-savings e.g. using a watt-meter, or somesuch?
<marcan> haven't tested, honestly I don't expect much on laptops because I think the biggest power hogs are probably CPU and display scanout (which don't change)
<marcan> the main benefit right now is knowing that the system is actually forced to be idle, instead of hoping apps aren't eating CPU
<SSJ_GZ> Thanks :)
<marcan> and honestly that will always be the main benefit, because s2idle by *definition* provides zero power saving over an idle system, because an idle system is already supposed to save power
<marcan> it's just that s2idle forces everything to be idle
<SSJ_GZ> Ah, I see
<marcan> there is "real" full sleep mode on these machines, but I think it won't save that much power, not enough for us to bother with it for a while
<marcan> there are much bigger things to fix first that will make the overall machines and s2idle more efficient
<SSJ_GZ> (I see your twitter already answered my Q - whoops XD)
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<_jannau_> Foxboron: I think it's PE executable embedded compressed data. not sure if compressed offset/size are at constant offsets. it's probably harder to parse compressed kernels
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* _jannau_ predicts the next macbook pros will have a new wifi chipset
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<mps> marcan: is this wifi S3 fixes in asahi-6.1-rc1-2
<mps> Toggle commit message
<mps> uhm sory
<mps> or it is only in git repo
<sven> hm, still no reply to the bt patches but they’re still in patchwork with “new” :(
<j`ey> mps: only git repo
<mps> j`ey: thanks, will build it soon and test
<sven> and it looks like I broke atcphy while trying to adjust it to support dp altmode :<
<povik> marcan: that's right, it's because the clocks are off. but why does it want to switch on those power domains?
<povik> the driver only turns those on after the clocks are up
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<joske> marcan: suspend working on M1 mba!
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<sven> [ 36.083214] apple-dcp 231c00000.dcp: RTKit: syslog message: entSource_rtkit.cpp:105: [AFK][AFKTimerEventSource:0xffffffff40fa85c8] worker <-- at least the AFK/EPIC stuff is finally working :)
<sven> now let's see what happens if I connect a secondary screen with the linux driver
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<ljs> working on m2 air fyi
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<mps> looks like suspend works
<mps> on m1pro at least
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<King_InuYasha> marcan: gently pinging about asahi-scripts PRs again
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<jannau> not using the keyboard as wakeup source but also not powring it down has has unexpected results
<jannau> sleep working on the m2 macbook pro as well
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<mps> jannau: keyboard doesn't wake up but power switch does. I will left it in suspend mode over night to see battery status in morning
<jannau> I was verifying that keyboard input doesn't wake and did tenths of keypresses which filled the password prompt after waking
<ChaosPrincess> isnt there some sort of a gpio pin connected to the kb in order to allow wakeup?
<jannau> I think we're currently not not powering the keyboard down so we could just wakeup on a keypress
<kettenis> there is, at least for the m1 machines
<jannau> smc needs to have a gpio or similar for any keypress for the annoying feature of powering the laptops on on a keypress
<kettenis> but for s2idle the regular gpio should be usable as a wakeup, shoudn't it?
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<kettenis> but that'll likely need some driver support all the drivers that are involved (pinctrl, spi, keyboard)
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<jannau> smc might be easier as it's already used for waking on the lid/power button
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<kettenis> probably preferable if you intend to support proper suspend to RAM at some point in the future
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<phire> is suspend to ram needed? how much power does it save over suspending to idle?
<kettenis> good questions
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