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<marcan> maz: in case you're interested, looks like the kernel oopses if you try to read /sys/kernel/debug/psci. that file presumably shouldn't exist at all on non-psci systems.
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<marcan> I just realized that the reason why Apple are shipping 13.0 SFR with 12.6 is because they have to
<marcan> SFR only ever gets rolled forward, so they can't fork off development like they fork off macOS development
<marcan> so SFR versions go 12.5, 13.0 and there are no and never will be any 12.6+ SFRs
<marcan> if they didn't do that, a newer 12.6 branch could require a newer SFR labeled 12.6 but it would be impossible to install it when SFR is already 13.0
<marcan> so they probably just do SFR-relevant development in the 13.0 branch only, and 12.6.x just requires whatever minimum version from that branch it needs
<vivithecanine> what is the full name of SFR marcan?
<marcan> though that's actually... a bit wrong!
<marcan> let me fix that
<marcan> there, fixed :)
<vivithecanine> that's a lot more complete, thanks!
<TellowKrinkle> Since SFR is shared by everything, does that mean it's kept backwards compatible with all previous macOSes?
<handlerug> marcan: this page mentions System Fallback recoveryOS, are they the same thing? https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Partitioning-cheatsheet#macos-disk-management-basics
<marcan> System recoveryOS and System Fallback recoveryOS are both part of SFR
<marcan> the latter is rarely seen these days
<handlerug> oh, I see, thanks
<marcan> I think it was more common in 11.x where the SFR recoveryOS *was* the primary recoveryOS. Now that we have paired per-OS recoveries I think they stopped doing fallbacks for the system wide one, since there is enough redundancy already.
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<maz> marcan: huh, nice one. has this been reported on the list?
<marcan> don't think so, just that github issue
<marcan> TellowKrinkle: yes (sorry, missed the question earlier)
<maz> marcan: I'll send a patch shortly. can I add you as the reporter?
<marcan> sure
<maz> cheers.
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<kettenis> we could fix that issue by implementing the alternative psci conduit we've been talking about ;)
<maz> kettenis: almost ;-)
<maz> kettenis: I doubt I'll be able to update the FW on my XGene-1 machine...
<kettenis> oh, that one doesn't have psci either?
<maz> kettenis: doesn't even have EL3!
<maz> to my knowledge, that's the only other HW implementation that only runs in NS.
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<jannau> dcp is strange, after IOP shutdown and pmgr reset it doesn't reply to the initial SetSHM call but I can communicate over the shared mem. everything except swapping surfaces works
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<kettenis> is there something like an UnsetSHM call?
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<jannau> not that we know of. the system endpoints are reset after shutdown and pmgr reset
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