03:50 <jmr2> Regarding wifi patch 11/34, is there something wrong in the commit message? The "more than"/"greater than" part ?

03:52 <rkjnsn[m]> I think the "more than" is superfluous.

10:58 <marcan> thanks, fied :)

10:58 <marcan> *fixed

11:27 <mps> marcan: any idea when the 'pcie enable devices' will be 'added' to m1n1

11:27 <mps> iiuc it should be activated before kernel starts

11:29 <jannau> mps: probably never, it'll be handled by the in kernel SMC driver

11:29 <mps> jannau: ah, by SMC. ok

11:30 <mps> last night I got idea to 'piggy back' one small arm32 SBC to m1 to run pcie_enable_devices.py when I boot m1 :)

11:33 <mps> jannau: about keyboard, old apple keyboard driver have options to exchange some keys (Fn with left ctrl and alt with command). do you plan to add something like this to m1 driver

11:41 <_jannau_> mps: drivers/hid/hid-apple.c (which we use) has options for that as well

11:46 <mps> hmm, I tried but it didn't worked

11:46 <mps> will check again

11:48 <mps> oh, looks like this works only when built as module and not in kernel

12:30 <YichaoYu[m]> marcan: seems that the comment "No platform data for this device, try OF and DMI data" in 16/34 should be updated to mention ACPI?

13:43 <mps> jannau: confirm that with files in /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters keyboard behavior could be tweaked

14:41 <VladimirMateev[m]> Hello!

14:43 <mps> \o

14:44 <VladimirMateev[m]> whats up?

14:44 <mps> do you have to ask something about running linux/bsd on M1?

14:45 <FireFox317> indeed, #asahi-offtopic is for general talks xd

14:50 <VladimirMateev[m]> okey thank you

17:28 <jmr2> One of the recent LKML posts confirms what I had started to suspect, but don't fully understand: "There is a global recovery image as well as per-OS recovery image."

17:28 <jmr2> How do you choose to boot from any of these, and where are they stored?

17:28 <jmr2> I guess that the per-os ones are in the same partition as the OS they back-up, and they auto-start if the main OS of that partition fails to start, but that you can't really manually select those in the boot picker, but you can choose them prior to rebooting - which is what the asahi installer is doing?

17:28 <jmr2> I also guess that the global one is the one you can reach via the "option" icon in the boot menu?

17:28 <jmr2> And that's why the per-os one needs to have the same OS version as the main OS in the same partition, and the global one will always match the most recent version of MacOS that was ever installed on that Mac (unless you do a DFU restore - and possibly even then)?

17:28 <jmr2> Do I understand this right ?

17:36 <jmr2> Reference: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/0a028b79-01eb-b69f-79b2-c9588dd31ad1@marcan.st/

17:52 <marcan> jmr2: this changed in 12.x, but ignoring the obsolete stuff, it boots whatever is the recovery image for the currently selected default boot OS

17:52 <marcan> so if you hit options in the menu you get the recovery for whatever the default boot is

17:52 <marcan> the global one is only a fallback

17:53 <marcan> and this is why you need to set the asahi partition as default, then reboot again into 1TR (which will now be the paired version), then run step2

17:53 <marcan> in 11.x we could do the install without any second reboot, but that's no longer possible (for entirely reasonable security reasons)

17:54 <marcan> they are stored in the OS container Recovery volume

18:02 <jmr2> So if you don't know what's the default OS, you don't know what's booting when going into recovery. That's... weird. Anyway, thanks for the explanation!

18:45 <jmr2> Just had a look at the recovery partitions on the Linux (12.0.1) and MacOS (12.1) volumes. Similar, but different. Two "profiles" under /boot for the Linux one, but only one in MacOS. The dmg file is ~2GB on Linux, but <1 on MacOS - but when mounted, they're both close to 2GB. Intriguing.

20:28 <j`ey> jmr2: marcan found some 'compression' thing in one of the streams iirc, which is why it is probably showing that 2g 1g difference

20:46 <ChaosPrincess> if it boots the paired recovery for the active os, what is the globally installed recovery used for?

21:18 <jmr2> j`ey: that'd make sense. On 12.1, the dmg is less than a GB, but GetInfo on it when mounted states that it contains about 2GB of stuff. Maybe they just discovered hard links :-D

21:20 <jmr2> ChaosPrincess: that was just answered - "the global one is only a fallback".

22:06 <landscape15[m]> ChaosPrincess: if no os can be booted, or some required partitions are corrupted, 1TR is the only way to restore a working machine. If even 1TR doesn’t work, you need to perform a DFU restore.

22:07 <landscape15[m]> However, I think it’s very difficult to corrupt the global recovery.

22:09 <tpw_rules> ...not really?