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<marcan>
I wonder if I have access to an Intel MBP with that kind of keyboard... I might, I have a friend with an older (pre-T2) MBP they aren't using, maybe I can borrow that
<marcan>
would be nice to follow up with some patches to support that
<marcan>
not sure if it's the right gen though
<JTL>
What gen do you need?
<marcan>
not sure :-)
<JTL>
Okay
<JTL>
How to check?
<marcan>
" * The keyboard and touchpad controller on the MacBookAir6, MacBookPro12,
<marcan>
* MacBook8 and newer can be driven either by USB or SPI. However the USB
<marcan>
* pins are only connected on the MacBookAir6 and 7 and the MacBookPro12.
<marcan>
* All others need this driver. "
<marcan>
says the driver
<marcan>
12 is apparently Early 2015?
<JTL>
13-inch
<JTL>
sounds right
<marcan>
I'll ask them what year it was, it might be in range
<marcan>
I also in theory have access to an idle T2 mac (though I think it'll be put to use soonish); I want to use that to test the wifi patches and make them work on ACPI systems
<marcan>
those don't use SPI for the keyboard though
<marcan>
or rather they do, to the T2; then the Intel sees a weirdo virtual USB controller instead
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<jmr2>
marcan: to close an old loop: your PMGR+DCP patches work for me, thanks. And thanks for the SPI streams - I'm still going through them.
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<Glanzmann>
Btw. I noticed that mpv -vo drm gives me the best playback experience on the air.
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<Glanzmann>
jmr2: Where can I get the latest dcp patches from?
<Glanzmann>
povik: What needs to be done to get basic sound support on the air? Would it help if I give you ssh access to a macbook air connected to a mini running proxyclient with a decent usb cable?
<NightRaven[m]>
<landscape15[m]> "NightRaven: Do I only need to..." <- do you have the rootFS usb ?
<mps>
Glanzmann: no, I didn't tried wifi patches, I use usb wifi dongle. also for sound I use usb sound card
<NightRaven[m]>
mps: did the wifi dongle work ?
<mps>
yes, driver is in mainline kernel, staging.
<mps>
it is r8188eu
<NightRaven[m]>
mps: so it has to be a specific model
<mps>
NightRaven[m]: I think any model which have mainlined kernel driver will work
<NightRaven[m]>
mps: hmm ok i will go buy one later
<NightRaven[m]>
has anyone got xorg working yet
<mps>
btw, I noticed that f2fs driver doesn't work in 5.16-rc series
<NightRaven[m]>
mps: oh rip
<mps>
NightRaven[m]: xorg works
<NightRaven[m]>
hmm so any display manger will work
<NightRaven[m]>
might try to get that working
<NightRaven[m]>
after i get my wifi dongle
<mps>
if xorg works display managers should work, I'm using awesome wm and it works very well, I don't have any problem with it
<Glanzmann>
mps: I see.
<NightRaven[m]>
mps: hmm ok have you gotten linux working on your ssd like a separate partion for it or are u using a usb ?
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: xorg works quite good. You use the simple drm fb kerbel driver that you already use, but use fbdev xorg driver.
<mps>
NightRaven[m]: it works on usb stick though slow as expected, on usb ssd it works quite fine
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: When you want to playback video you do, mpv -vo drm it is quite good performance.
<NightRaven[m]>
Glanzmann: hmm ok today i might try to get some stuff working
<mps>
Glanzmann: I don't use fbdev driver and xorg works fine
<Glanzmann>
mps: Yes, but no firefox.
<NightRaven[m]>
why doesn't firefox work
<NightRaven[m]>
* firefox work ?
<mps>
Glanzmann: right, that is last serious problem I have
<Glanzmann>
mps: Whan jmr2 has a dcp patch from alyssa. With this dcp patch, if it does not crash, you can have both (modesetting and firefox).
<Glanzmann>
s/Whan/But/g
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: For some reason unknown to us browser rendering engines do not work when using the modesetting xorg driver.
<NightRaven[m]>
ohh ok
<mps>
Glanzmann: I didn't looked deeply but I think with simpledrm even modesetting driver is not needed
<Glanzmann>
However if you're a kde or gnome fanboy, you're in luck, because than you can use wayland. ANd with wayland it just works (tm).
<mps>
no, I don't like wayland
<NightRaven[m]>
bspwm
<Glanzmann>
mps: Also a friend told me yesterday that noone bothers to implement anti-tiering in the *drm and modesetting xorg driver, so no matter which modesetting driver you use, you have always tearing. This is why I use the i910 driver on my t490 notebook instead of modesetting.
<Glanzmann>
mps: I know, me neither. I'm a fvwm2 fanboy since '93 or '94 not going to change. The keybindings are hardcoded to my brain.
<mps>
Glanzmann: well, I even don't know what is tiering ;)
<mps>
so I don't care
<psykose>
screentear
<mps>
Glanzmann: hah, in 93-94 I also used fvwm
<Glanzmann>
mps: When you watch a video and the pixels that belong to a single frame do not update at the same time, but one line after another and you notice this.
<mps>
Glanzmann: I don't see any problem with video. maybe I should buy glasses :)
<mps>
also i have one pixel borders on awesome
<Glanzmann>
mps: How to do you playback video and what resolution does your video have and do you watch it fullscreen or in a window?
<Glanzmann>
mps: So you're awesome my fvwm2 config look a lot alike. :-)
<NightRaven[m]>
Glanzmann: Did you manage to get the ssd working
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<mps>
Glanzmann: very rarely I watch full screen videos, usually 640x480
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: Yes, the only issue with the nvme is that random writes are dogslow. But you can get around that issue by prefixen the command with 'eatmydata'
<Glanzmann>
mps: I see, I tested of course with 1080p and 4k in fullscreen.
<Glanzmann>
mps: What videoplayer do you use?
<mps>
Glanzmann: I switched to awesome from fvwm because I can write helper and applets easily in lua with awesome
<mps>
Glanzmann: mpv, what else ;)
<NightRaven[m]>
cool i might try to get it working but my question is why do i need 3 partions when i only need an 200/100gb one for linux
<NightRaven[m]>
and then i can use the macho file too boot from it
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: See here: https://ab34.de/u/partitioning.txt - This is my understanding, might be of on the first one and the last two.
<Glanzmann>
This is from my air.
<mps>
regarding kernel 5.16-rc, I built it yesterday for acer R13 chromebook (aarch64) and it even doesn't boot, so looks like 5.16 will need a lot of fixes
<NightRaven[m]>
Glanzmann: ok but my question is what do you put in the m1n1 partion
<NightRaven[m]>
the macho file ?
<mps>
so it works on M1 quite fine then
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: The asahi installer created the partition and put the file in it.
<zimsneexh>
Glanzmann: How did your attempt with the MBA go?
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<Glanzmann>
mps: After you told me yesterday, I'm also running on: Linux air 5.16.0-rc1-asahi-dirty #1 SMP Sat Dec 11 23:31:50 CET 2021 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<NightRaven[m]>
Glanzmann: i can put the file in manually so i will do it
<landscape15[m]>
<NightRaven[m]> "do you have the rootFS usb ?" <- Yes, I only have the compiled kernel Image.gz
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: so if you have the rootfs usb that is fine
<NightRaven[m]>
do you know what is like if you do an lsblk
<NightRaven[m]>
check what /dev/ is your usb
<Glanzmann>
zimsneexh: Works like a charm. Only thing I'm missing is wifi, did not get it to work and I'm looking forward for camera, audio and accelerated graphics, but with my setup it is quiet usable (I currently have a usb nic, audio and video camera on it).
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: usb is usally sdX
<Glanzmann>
nvme* is usually build in.
<Glanzmann>
If you have sata or sas ssds they will also show up as sd*
<zimsneexh>
Glanzmann: Does battery percentage indicator work for you? I'm guessing it doesn't for now
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: but shouldn’t I simply bundle the kernel image and m1n1 in a single macho?
<Glanzmann>
zimsneexh: I think noone implemented it, so I did not check.
<zimsneexh>
Glanzmann: Got it, thought so
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: If you don't want to use a second system to boot, yes.
<NightRaven[m]>
Glanzmann: ok so if you only have 1 usb plugged i assume that this will be the command ```cat m1n1.macho <(echo 'boot-args=net.ifnames=0 rw root=/dev/sdb rootwait rootfstype=ext4') Image.gz t8103-j293.dtb > nr.macho ```
<NightRaven[m]>
but is your usb formatted to ext4
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<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: isn’t Image.gz only the kernel, and not the rootFS?
<NightRaven[m]>
Image.gz is the kernel correct
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Correct. The root filesystem usually resides on block storage like a usb drive or nvme.
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: rootFS is the usb that you will boot from
<landscape15[m]>
So I can use whatever ARM image from a distro website, and put it in my USB, right?
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: nop
<NightRaven[m]>
> <@landscape15:matrix.org> So I can use whatever ARM image from a distro website, and put it in my USB, right?
<NightRaven[m]>
* nope
<zimsneexh>
landscape15[m]: any that's aarch64, pretty much
<mps>
NightRaven[m]: you don't need to quote messages on IRC
<NightRaven[m]>
i am replying to it
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Yes, mostly. Most people in this channel run ubuntu, debian and arch, IIRC.
<mps>
NightRaven[m]: anyway, they are quoted on IRC
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15: do you have your usb formatted ext4 ?
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: yeah, I formatted it from macOS with Paragon
<mps>
landscape15[m]: not sure what you mean by '.gz format'
<NightRaven[m]>
so what i do is i move the filename.tar.gz to my usb and i do ```sudo tar -xf filename.tar.gz``` inside the usb with the file in it and then you see a tempdir folder cd into that and do ```sudo cp -r * ../```
<NightRaven[m]>
so this moves everything in tempdir to your usb then just do ```sudo rm -rf tempdir```
<NightRaven[m]>
and there that should be it you have rootFS on your usb
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: ok thanks, I’ll give it a try
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: ok just give me a ping if anything happens
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: sure :)
<mps>
mount /dev/sdxY /mntpoint ; tar -xf filename.tar.gz -C /mntpoint
<NightRaven[m]>
yep then there will be a tempdir on the usb and then cd into and do ```sudo cp -r * ../```
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<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: btw. mv tempdir/* .; rmdir tempdir is much more efficient because it almost does no I/O and preserve the permissions.
<NightRaven[m]>
hmm ok it's just what i found easier for me
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<Glanzmann>
mps: I noticed that when I close my lid of the macbook air the screen does not power off and heats keyboard, touchpad and surroundings, do you have a solution for that? IIRC the dcp driver from alyssa can turn of the screen (at least on the mini using hdmi), but I'm not sure if it is still maintained or in a state that it can be used?
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: I managed to boot. But I think the rootFS doesn’t load.
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<TomHobson[m]>
👋 Hey all
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Do you have more than one usb stick conencted, if not I assume yout boot device is not /dev/sdb but /dev/sda (the internal disk is discovered nvme0n1 ...)
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<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: when I built the new macho I set /dev/sdb (because my vm see it as /dev/sdb1). I don’t have any other USB connected, apart from the dongle.
<landscape15[m]>
As you see in the photo, it says it waiting for /dev/sdb
<jannau>
the vm probably uses ahci/sata for the emulated hard disk and it's /dev/sda. It will not be present when booting directly on the device it's not there and the usb stick becomes sda
<landscape15[m]>
jannau: ok I’ll try setting it as /dev/sda, because for now I don’t have my Linux desktop pc, and I can’t try on it.
<landscape15[m]>
I don’t have to specify sda1 right?
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Did you put a partition table on it?
<Glanzmann>
If yes, than it is /dev/sda1, if not than it is /dev/sda
<Glanzmann>
Maybe I do a video later today showing all the steps from scratch. Than it is easier if you have not done it before.
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Out of curiosity, which hypervisor did you use on macos?
<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: I generally use qemu
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: I see btw. it seems you partitioned the usb stick, if that is the case you have to set root=/dev/sda1
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: In your VM it is different because /dev/sda is the virtual hard drive, as jannau mentioned.
<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: yeah, I think there is also a FAT32 EFI partition
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Maybe run 'lsblk' or 'parted /dev/sdb print' from the VM to idnetify the partition.
<Glanzmann>
I always do it on another Linux machine, and I do not bother to create a partition table but just put the ext4 directly on the block device.
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<NightRaven[m]>
<landscape15[m]> "Glanzmann: when I built the..." <- what is in your usb
<NightRaven[m]>
do an ls
<NightRaven[m]>
<Glanzmann> "landscape15: I see btw. it seems..." <- i mean are you sure sda
<NightRaven[m]>
that is for hdd's
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: there is only the extracted rootFS (with Linux folders)
<NightRaven[m]>
hmm ok so try change the macho file to /dev/sdb1
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: wait i can make one for you
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m] / landscape15[m]: It is /dev/sda1 because the physical mac has only one usb stick attached, right?
<Glanzmann>
So the device name in the VM and the physical machine are different.
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: ok I’ll try and tell you
<NightRaven[m]>
good luck : )
<landscape15[m]>
Thanks :)
<NightRaven[m]>
Glanzmann: i am going to make 2 partions's now one the rootfs so 190GB but how much do i need for the m1n1 bootloader (macho file)
<NightRaven[m]>
* (macho file) for the second partion
<NightRaven[m]>
* (macho file) for the second partion
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<mps>
Glanzmann: re to screen power of: of course it doesn't work, drivers are not finished. also suspend/resume is not ready yet afaik
<Glanzmann>
mps: The dcp driver of alyssa could do over hdmi power off the screen and power it back on.
<Glanzmann>
NightRaven[m]: Since you have already installed m1n1, you already have that partition. That means you need only one extra partition.
<Glanzmann>
Glanzmann: The easiest way is to create it under linux using parted.
<Glanzmann>
But you can also boot to 1tr and click in disk utility until you figure out how to create a 'fat32' partition, than under Linux you reformat it with ext4 and put your stuff on it.
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<NightRaven[m]>
<Glanzmann> "NightRaven: Since you have..." <- i do not already have that partion
<NightRaven[m]>
i did ```kmutil configure-boot -c nr.macho -C -v /Volumes/Macintosh HD```
<povik>
Glanzmann: some code changes and writing down the DT are required for speaker support on air. jack output should only need writing the DT
<povik>
there's some work that needs to be done up front that does not require access to hw. but then i might take you up on that remote access offer. sounds good?
<mps>
povik: does your sound driver work on MBP or you have to work more on it
<matthewayers[m]>
So if I’m interested in contributing to the project, can I run off of a vm or do I need a partition in order to get started?
<povik>
mps: work more
<mps>
povik: thanks for info (and sorry because I'm impatient)
<j`ey>
matthewayers[m]: you need to run on the real hardware
<povik>
no worries
<Glanzmann>
povik: Yes sounds good. If I'm not in IRC, ping me on thomas@glanzmann.de I also can hook you up some audio hardware that you can hear what you're doing.
<Glanzmann>
povik: Btw. do you have the code that I have to put in the DT for jack output on the air, than I can try that.
<matthewayers[m]>
j`ey: Thanks for the info! How big of a partition do you recommend?
<j`ey>
matthewayers[m]: 2.5G is the smallest you can do
<j`ey>
matthewayers[m]: that's for m1n1, and if you want to use NVMe as the rootfs, i guess you can do like 16G? or 20, dunno
<povik>
Glanzmann: not at hand but i can try writing it, will send it to you if i do
<Glanzmann>
povik: Perfect, do that and I'll run it and report back. btw. does the jack have audio output only or can it also do audio input?
<povik>
output only
<matthewayers[m]>
j`ey: I’ll plan on 50 just to be safe
<matthewayers[m]>
Another thing, I have an M1 Max chip on my machine. Is this compatible with the M1 Max or is that yet to be determined?
<j`ey>
matthewayers[m]: did you mean compatible with M1 Pro?
<j`ey>
anyway, it works
<matthewayers[m]>
j`ey: I have an M1 Max chip, not an M1 Pro chip
<j`ey>
ok, I misunderstood what 'this' refered to in that sentence
<j`ey>
if it meant asahi, then yes!
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<matthewayers[m]>
Alright, sounds good! Thanks j`ey for your help! Now I just need to get m1n1 up and running
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<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: With /dev/sda I get this
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<landscape15[m]>
It seems the problem is again “waiting for root device…” I’m afraid it’s my USB drive
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: I think you need /dev/sda1
<Glanzmann>
Because you put a partition on it.
<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: I tried but it crashed (it reboots). I try reformatting.
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Strange, maybe I should make that vidoe.
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<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: it’s strange because I’ve followed the instructions. I think it’s easier with the proxy. I already booted Linux successfully (using my desktop)
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<Dementor[m]>
I never like macs but I kinda want an m1 Mac just so I could play with these things
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<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: If you have a desktop PC, it is much easier with the proxy of course.
<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Once it is working you can build a macho device if you want to boot the device standalone.
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<landscape15[m]>
Glanzmann: yes, but I can’t use it right until next week.
<landscape15[m]>
I was wondering if I can set the UUID instead of the Mount point?
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<Glanzmann>
landscape15[m]: Shure, you can.
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<landscape15[m]>
@_oftc_Glanzmann:matrix.org: even with PARTUUID it stuck at Waiting for root device… maybe I should use a different kernel build.
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: Partuuid won't affect it hmm so you have tried /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: yeah, I also tried /dev/sda and dev/sda1
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<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: your usb is formatted in ext4 and has everything in it example ```boot, etc, usr boot etc ....```
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: yes, it’s formatted and contains the rootFS
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: how much gb is your usb ?
<landscape15[m]>
In total 32GB. It’s a SanDisk Ultra.
<NightRaven[m]>
ok then it has to be your macho file
<NightRaven[m]>
and what mac do you have ?
<NightRaven[m]>
pro , air ,mini ?
<landscape15[m]>
MacBook Pro 13
<NightRaven[m]>
Cool that is what i have. So if /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb is not working try /dev/sdb2 and try again but with these files ab34.de/u/Image.gz and https://ab34.de/u/t8103-j313.dtb
<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: ok thanks. Are you sure it isn’t the USB? Is it ok to use GPT?
<NightRaven[m]>
landscape15[m]: try mbr
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<landscape15[m]>
NightRaven: ok, I’ll try tomorrow. Going to sleep ;)