marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | Not ready for end users / self contained install yet. Soon. | General project discussion | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<Glanzmann> jannau: Same for me, I mentioned it a few days in here.
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<j`ey> jannau: if marcan is redoing asahi/asahi, is your new HID branch in a testable state to be included?
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<jannau> j`ey: yes and no. I'm working on the acpi part which is not ready. device tree variant would be mergeable but is intertwined with the acpi split. I should be able to split it easily off
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<jannau> current state without acpi pushed to https://github.com/jannau/linux/tree/dev/spi-hid-apple
<j`ey> jannau: cool!
<j`ey> spi_hid_apple_status_ok still seems to only be used in sizeof()
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<Glanzmann> kettenis: Can you ping me when you adopt u-boot for marcan asahi rebase?
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<j`ey> what's the 'n' in /dev/nvme0n1 n2 etc
<kettenis> namespace
<sven> namespace
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<h_> Hey, I might just be a "looky-loo" but I'd love to try to mess with the alpha installer if that would be OK
<h_> "If you are a more typical developer and you want to help work on the kernel or just experiment with the platform, and are happy doing tethered boots via USB (uploading the kernel from another machine), please ask on IRC for a quick guide on how to set up tethered boot using the alpha installer."
<kettenis> u-boot device trees have been resynched with the current asahi branch
<kettenis> still has a few tweaks and extras to support U-Boot and OpenBSD
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<mps> kettenis: internal keyboard is slow in u-boot, though not big problem
<kettenis> it isn't perfect
<mps> nothing is perfect
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<mps> on my arm32 chromebook keyboard works fine
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<kettenis> I sometimes seem to lose keystrokes, which is a bit annoying
<mps> yes, same here, I have to type slowly and look at every character on screen
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<j`ey> sven: ty for your hard work with nvme! I finally took the time to get it working: [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: root=/dev/nvme0n1p4
<sven> :)
<h_> hey all any thoughts on my question above?
<mps> h_: if you follow quickstart guide it is not complicated to do
<h_> mps: on the github?
<mps> equipment you need another computer and usb type-c cable
<marcan> the quickstart guide is obsolete, as it says on the top
<mps> marcan: yes but still good enough to understand basic
<marcan> it's a complete waste of time unless you're going to be tracing macOS drivers
<mps> well then
<mps> I don't have anything better where I would direct new people
<mps> s/have/know/
<h_> would it be useful to pull this repo and update the docs as I go through it?
<marcan> h_: tl;dr upgrade to 11.5.2 or later, resize macOS with `diskutil apfs resizeContainer` (first step of the guide), then go into recovery mode (boot holding down power), open up a terminal, `curl -L mrcn.st/alxsh | sh`, and follow the instructions. when you get prompted for the macOS version to use, you can use the latest/default except if you're on a mac mini you'll want to pick 11.5.2 for the time ...
<marcan> ... being.
<h_> is 12 ok?
<marcan> as a system firmware version yes, and also for the option in the installer for any of the laptops
<marcan> you will get no video on the mac mini if you pick 12 in the installer, but you can have 12 as the macos/system version you run it under
<marcan> that will get you m1n1 installed (the bootloader). the latter part of the guide starting with "host setup" then applies
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<tpw_rules> marcan: do you have a quick summary of the new changes to the asahi branch?
<marcan> tpw_rules: it's basically just updates from everyone, rebasing on linux-next, fixing some warts, and wifi
<marcan> (and I changed how I maintain the branch by splitting it into a bunch of feature branches that I merge, to make rebases easier)
<tpw_rules> does it have the new nvme stuff?
<marcan> yes, it has sven's latest update
<marcan> also the latest keyboard
<marcan> so SMC will be developed on top of that too
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<Glanzmann> marcan: Should the asahi installer work from the recovery, because I think it nolonger does, because last time it tried, it told me you can't change the startup volume from there, IIRC.
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<Glanzmann> marcan: Also when you have a fully patched macos on a mini, you can't choose the old 11. something, because you can not put custom boot objects on it, last time i tried,
<Glanzmann> Or did I do something wrong?
<Glanzmann> So currenly I think the only way to do a fresh install on mac mini is to wipe it clean and install macos 11.
<Glanzmann> Glanzmann: For u-boot https://tg.st/u/asahi-uboot-quickstart.txt
<Glanzmann> h_: ^
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<Glanzmann> h_: u-boot allows you to run asahi without a second system, but for the setup you currently do, because there is now nown way to set the esp flags on a fat32 partition. Of course you could also do a concatted m1n1 but than you don't have wifi.
<Glanzmann> h_: If you don't have a usb ethernet adapter, get one first, makes things a lot easier.
<Glanzmann> mps: Have you already managed to get the new rebase running with u-boot and wifi?
<Glanzmann> jannau: Have you identified the source of the heat on the laptop models?
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<jannau> Glanzmann: no, but it's not wifi, at least not in the current asahi branch
<Glanzmann> I see, thanks.
<mps> Glanzmann: new rebase? when it is done?
<mps> I'm playing with jannaus kernel
<Glanzmann> today. marcan did apparantly a new asahi tree and kettenis updated u-boot.
<mps> ah, nice
<mps> will look later
<Glanzmann> mps: Did you get jannau kernel with u-boot and wifi running, if so could you share the instructions?
<mps> I got it booting for now
<Glanzmann> From NVMe?
<mps> yes
<Glanzmann> Please share the instructions.
<mps> but made I stupid cloning and now have to fix and clean things
<mps> Glanzmann: nothing special, used my config for asahi kernel and 'make oldconfing'
<jannau> mps: it contains https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/commit/7ca7a9f87005b44bb47c19ade17bc2be1e9fbaef for macbook pro 13" function keys
<mps> jannau: I've seen this
<mps> and you didn't credited me ;) (and blame)
<mps> jannau: jk
<jannau> there is currently no point in using my kernel, linux-asahi is in every aspect the better choice. I'll update the arch linux package to it later
<h_> mps: Glanzmann: marcan: thanks. I'll need to go dig some stuff up, but I have an M1 mac mini that I think I can use as a target, and a mac laptop I'd probably do dev on either native or in an ubuntu vm
<mps> jannau: ok, then I will now switch work on making new asahi
<h_> I do have a usb-ethernet adapter
<h_> i know the trick well of using networking to create a little dhcp test network
<jannau> mps: sorry about he missing credit it was late and I just wanted the change committed
<mps> h_: we all used ethernet dongles or wifi dongles on usb till we got internal wifi about two weeks ago
<jannau> I should also explained why it's done at all
<h_> mps: yep keeping it simple too bad there isn't a way to serial in
<mps> jannau: I don't think changing few lines in table is worth crediting, you did a great work on this
<j`ey> h_: the m1n1 hypervisor can give you serial over USB
<mps> h_: you can have serial console on another machine if you type-c cable
<h_> oh wow. cool.
<h_> well first step is to brush this mini off and go through the instructions
<Glanzmann> h_: Which macos do you have on the mini, is it fully patched?
<h_> Glanzmann: i'll probably need to run an update. its probably osx 11 since ive not used it in a while. was supposed to be a music machine midi thing for my wife but we just haven't set it up
<h_> so i could either bring it up to 11.recent or 12.recent
<Glanzmann> jannau: Should your new defconfig work for the new asahi branch or are there any tripwires you're aware of?
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<mps> Glanzmann: which branch to use for build on updated asahi tree? or main?
<jannau> Glanzmann: I suspect my macbook got warm with the defconfig (my current best guess is the audio support)
<j`ey> mps: the branch is just 'asahi'
<jannau> mps: branch asahi in https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux
<mps> j`ey: jannau: thanks
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<brentr123[m]> is the opengl drivers for asahi going to be on version 4.6?
<jn> version 4.6 of what?
<brentr123[m]> of opengl
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<jn> ah.
<jn> maybe someone in #asahi-gpu knows, but bloom/alyssa isn't there at the moment
<ChaosPrincess> i think something is wrong with spi keyboard on latest asahi branch, it doesnt work and i see [ 0.144471] SPI driver spi-hid-apple-of has no spi_device_id for apple,spi-hid-transport in dmesg
<ChaosPrincess> (13 inch mbp)
<ChaosPrincess> [ 0.343751] spi-hid-apple-of spi0.0: spihid_apple_of_probe:74
<ChaosPrincess> [ 0.434262] spi-hid-apple-of spi0.0: R short packet: len:4
<ChaosPrincess> [ 2.465616] spi-hid-apple-of spi0.0: waiting for device boot failed: -19
<ChaosPrincess> also this
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<jannau> ChaosPrincess: I think the first message is unrelated to the problem since the device is probed anyway
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<jannau> is the failure reproducible? are you booting through u-boot?
<Glanzmann> jannau: If this was for me, than I did not try before asking, but now I did and I failed, but had no nvme compiled in, so I'm right now rebuilding with your defconfig and let you know how it went.
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<Glanzmann> Oh this was a netsplit.
<jannau> Glanzmann: no, I was asking ChaosPrincess who has problems with the spi hid transport
<mps> new asahi branch doesn't boot in my test, looks like problem with nvme driver
<ChaosPrincess> jannau: yes to both
<mps> and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NVME_APPLE is disappeared
<jannau> ChaosPrincess: can you test without u-boot or with CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB disabled in u-boot
<j`ey> CONFIG_NVME_APPLE now
<Glanzmann> That explains why I don't have NVMe.
<mps> j`ey: it is enabled but doesn't work
<Glanzmann> Thank you for the heads up.
<Glanzmann> jannau: Could you please include CONFIG_NVME_APPLE in your defconfig?
<j`ey> mps: re: alpinelinux, do you know why I can't login as root at the console/tty? I type root, but it never lets me enter a password, and just says invalid password for root
<mps> j`ey: default root don't have password, i.e. just enter key
<Glanzmann> mps: I think j`ey does not get a password prompt, but it just hangs?
<mps> ah, I misunderstood then
<Glanzmann> But it does hang, but says invalid password.
<j`ey> Im going to try add another user, see if I can login through that
<mps> j`ey: what arch you trying to install
<j`ey> mps: m1
<mps> :)
<j`ey> another user worked, but root doesn't, weird
<mps> I mean alpine arch, aarch64?
<j`ey> yes, for the m1!
<mps> ah, look /etc/securety
<j`ey> yeah it has tty1 in it
<mps> hmm, strange
<mps> did you installed 'pam' pkg
<mps> linux-pam, I mean
<j`ey> nope
<mps> you got login prompt?
<j`ey> yep
<j`ey> I can login with the other user that I added
<Glanzmann> shit, now I have nvme but the keyboard is gone.
<Glanzmann> But that is just another config option change.
<mps> j`ey: how did you installed it? from iso img?
<j`ey> mps: I copied the minimal rootfs tarball
<Glanzmann> jannau: Should that be enough for the keyboard? https://pbot.rmdir.de/6NSvqwbIOUPtLtoGMYA7-Q
<mps> ah, that is intended for containers, docker, lxc ...
<Glanzmann> mps: With the new u-boot and the new asahi branch, u-boot and wifi works. No keyboard at the moment, but that is probably another config option.
<j`ey> mps: I thought it should still work enough!
<jannau> Glanzmann: you need CONFIG_HID_APPLE and CONFIG_HID_MAGICMOUSE too
<mps> j`ey: yes, but need tweaks
<mps> j`ey: this is not 'prefered' method for installation on bare metal
<jannau> Glanzmann: please try disabling CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB in u-boot, I suspect there's a HW reset issue when u-boot initializes the keyboard too
<mps> j`ey: https://tpaste.us/NMPk this is my work in progress script to install alpine on usb stick for m1
<j`ey> mps: cool, I'll take a look and see if there's something useful
<j`ey> mps: have you got linux-pam? if so, seems like it's a dep of something else
<mps> j`ey: yes, for some programs but that is call for problems because 'PAM' is not good idea
<mps> imo, to add
<mps> a lot of people asks for help with it
<mps> in above script I had problem only with grub
<mps> j`ey: after line 'apk --allow-untrusted --root "$TMPDIR" --arch aarch64 --no-script add grub-efi' good idea would be to enter chroot and run grub-install by hand
<mps> though didn't tested this yet
<j`ey> mps: I'm going to try understand why my login doesn't work first
<mps> j`ey: I have this simple script to install alpine on riscv in qemu https://arvanta.net/alpine/install-alpine-riscv64-qemu-uboot/
<mps> not sure would it help you but look at 'echo "Setting up services and inittab"' part, maybe some init process is not started
<j`ey> it's kinda similar to what I did, I just didn't script it
<mps> stupid qeustion, but did you installed openrc
<mps> I guess yes
<j`ey> I haven't, but ikke from #alpine-linux says that isnt required
<mps> hmm, how? it is current pid 1 on alpine
<mps> it is not needed in containers
<j`ey> well not required for just logging in
<mps> right
<mps> j`ey: I can't look in you FS so I can't have idea what could be problem
<mps> though I remember that when I installed alpine first time arm SBC I did it like you are doing now and remember that I had to tweak and set some things but forgot which ones
<ChaosPrincess> jannau: tested w/o u-boot, kb works then
<j`ey> mps: ok I found a workaround, I added 'UNKNOWN' to my securetty. Im going to now go and try find out why it cant find the tty name
<j`ey> mps: found it, /proc isnt mounted, so it cant get the tty name
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<mps> j`ey: ah
<mps> openrc mounts /proc /sys etc
<j`ey> yeah, now that I know the issue,, I'll install openrc :P
<mps> rc-update will show you which services is enabled on start
<jannau> ChaosPrincess: and with CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB disabled in u-boot? apparently the spi device is not in the same state after u-boot initialized it
<mps> j`ey: look again at script I posted above which basic services needs to be enabled
<jannau> I can't test with u-boot but I'll try to do test that in linux
<Glanzmann> jannau: CONFIG_HID_MAGICMOUSE was missing, recompiling.
<Glanzmann> jannau: CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB=y in u-boot was already there.
<Glanzmann> https://pbot.rmdir.de/0cJQW2E0OPzzXWdatZJFBA (spi errors) Complete dmesg: https://pbot.rmdir.de/0cJQW2E0OPzzXWdatZJFBA (this is without CONFIG_HID_MAGICMOUSE but with CONFIG_HID_APPLE=y). No keyboard or mouse with air
<Glanzmann> jannau: If you need access to my device, let me know.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: jannau thinks CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB=y is breaking it
<Glanzmann> j`ey: I see, should I turn it off?
<Glanzmann> j`ey: I don't have CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB in my config.
<kettenis> earlier versions of the linux keyboard code worked fine with u-boot though isn't it?
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<Glanzmann> kettenis: Yes.
<j`ey> Glanzmann: CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB is u-boot config not linux
<ChaosPrincess> jannau: tested with config_apple_spi_keyb disabled, kb works now
<Glanzmann> j`ey: I see, so I should turn it off in u-boot?
<Glanzmann> Ah, perfect. Will try.
<Glanzmann> jannau: j`ey: ChaosPrincess: On the m1, with CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB=n in u-boot the keyboard does not work in grub but in Linux.
<Glanzmann> m1 air*
<mps> keyboard should be enabled in u-boot
<j`ey> Glanzmann: u-boot provides keyboard input for grub, thats why it wont work with CONFIG_APPLE_SPI_KEYB=n
<Glanzmann> j`ey: I thought so.
<mps> Glanzmann: does nvme works with asahi branch
<Glanzmann> mps: Yes.
<Glanzmann> Let me check usb-hot plug.
<mps> Glanzmann: do you know which options/drivers must be enabled
<Glanzmann> mps: USB hotplug works, too. But that was a pebkac lastime anyway.
<Glanzmann> jannau / kettenis If you need a keyboard tester, let me know.
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<j`ey> mps: with openrc it mounts proc and works fine
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<mps> j`ey: nice to hear, and welcome to alpine :)
<mps> Glanzmann: iiuc, to get nvme on asahi new we need upgraded u-boot? and with upgraded u-boot keyboard doesn't work?
<kettenis> nothing changed in u-boot, so the problem is the new code in asahi
<mps> kettenis: and current active branch is still https://github.com/kettenis/u-boot/commits/apple-m1-m1n1-nvme
<kettenis> yes
<mps> thanks
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<Glanzmann> mps: Yes.
<Glanzmann> Also necessary for nvme.
<Glanzmann> Who needs a keyboard when you cn boot to Linux? :-)
<mps> Glanzmann: then we need usb keyboard for u-boot and grub
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<Glanzmann> mps: My grub happens to boot a right kernel, so I'm good for now. :-)
<mps> just tested this combos and can confirm all your notes
<mps> upgraded u-boot with asahi branch boots but keyboard doesn't work
<mps> Glanzmann: did you tried with CONFIG_HID_APPLE and CONFIG_HID_MAGICMOUSE enabled
<Glanzmann> mps: Both are enabled in the config I sent you.
<Glanzmann> So, yes.
<Glanzmann> jannau / kettenis: If you have patches for us to try, let us know. If you need remote access to a macbook air hooked up to mini, also let me know.
<mps> and keyboard still doesn't work?
<Glanzmann> mps: The keyboard on the m1 air work, but in u-boot not. If I enable the keyboard in u-boot it does not work in Linux.
<Glanzmann> I prefer keyboard in Linux.
<mps> Glanzmann: I see, ok
<mps> I prefer it everywhere
* Glanzmann too. But if I can have it in Linux or u-boot/grub, I prefer Linux. :-)
<jannau> I was aving dinner. It's a problem in the linux driver. the device act's differently wen it was already initialized by u-boot. There is a reset in the linux driver but the device is not behaving in the same way as on poweron without u-boot
<jannau> I should be able to test that with compiling it as module
<mps> jannau: no hurry, enjoy your dinner
<Glanzmann> jannau: I see, perfect.
<Glanzmann> I was looking for good keyboard mouse forever, have to try it out.
<Glanzmann> Oh, it is windows only, what a shame.
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<mps> Glanzmann: I use st term with some patches and I don't need mouse to much
<mps> and vimium in firefox
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<Glanzmann> jannau / mps: With the new kernel I sometimes have spurious klicks. Maybe it is userland changes, but I don't think so.
<Glanzmann> So normally the touchpad should only klick when I press it down. But now if I double tap it, it klicks and that heppens accidently when I type or browser hackernews a lot.
<Glanzmann> Oh I shut up, I think I have it misconfigured, but the kernel now enables tap to klick maybe. DId not happen to me before.
<Glanzmann> So yeah setting tapping to 0 solves it. https://tg.st/u/30-input.conf
<mps> Glanzmann: tapping worked for me from beginning, but I disabled it intentionally
<mps> touchpad is too sensistive
<Glanzmann> mps: I though this was your input.conf. I see.
<Glanzmann> Yes, it is.
<Glanzmann> mps: New kernel and u-boot is very nice. Also I think the macbook air doesn't get as warm as it got with the previous one.
<mps> Glanzmann: yes, my input.conf have tapping enabled but I disabled it with 'xinput' .xinitrc. I thought I told this to you earlier
<mps> in .xinitrc*
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<mps> Glanzmann: I tried with new u-boot/kernel but reverted to old, want to have keyboard on both
<mps> and worked on some cosmetic changes
<Glanzmann> I see.
<Glanzmann> mps: You told me, that you disabled it, but I thought in the xorg.conf but did not look that closely and it was working good for me until today, but now its better.
<mps> increased character size in grub, looks nice now
<mps> also increased character size in u-boot but then it looks ugly
<Glanzmann> mps: I currently have my air boot m1n1 and I chainload u-boot/grub or kernel using usb cable to be faster when testing things.
<mps> Glanzmann: I do this when some developers asks to test something. with my current setup I have quite usable machine for $day_work
<Glanzmann> mps: I can work with this as well. But previously I was always using macos because it got to hot.
<mps> Glanzmann: interesting, my box was normal temperature from beginning. maybe pro and air differs in some things
<j`ey> mbp has fans, air doesnt
<hell__> how ironic
<mps> j`ey: ah yes, I forgot this. though never noticed fan are active but maybe I don't hear it
<j`ey> hell__: hah
<Glanzmann> mps: I had the temperature issues only with the asahi take 5 branch IIRC.
<Glanzmann> So, I'll now downgrade my mini to get hdmi output back.
<jannau> https://github.com/jannau/linux/commit/c5eb67144c10f8685ebd8c1dfef8586588e1994d on-top of linux-asahi should fix the keyboard issue with u-boot
<jannau> Glanzmann: ChaosPrincess: ^^^
<jannau> mps: ^^^
<mps> jannau: ehm, just when I intended to go to bed :)
<mps> thanks
<jannau> no need to test it now
<Glanzmann> jannau: Compiling.
<ChaosPrincess> ill check it out tomorrow, ty
<jannau> I could reproduce the issue with building spi-hid as module and load/unload cycles
<mps> building, also
<Glanzmann> jannau: Nice. :-)
<mps> Glanzmann: yes, that is how I do such things
<Glanzmann> jannau: Works, thanks a lot.
<Glanzmann> So keyboard works in grub and kernel.
<mps> jannau: also works for me on j293
<mps> jannau: great work
<mps> good night all
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<Glanzmann> mps: You, too.