#asahi on 2024-04-16 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-03-01 05:50 marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi

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05:59 <LarstiQ> j`ey: aye. I'm hoping it's going to see some movement soonish with https://github.com/ziglang/zig/pull/17382#issuecomment-2057983795 being clear it needs to be fixed

06:02 <LarstiQ> in the meantime I change https://github.com/ziglang/zig/blob/master/lib/std/mem.zig#L13 locally

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07:55 <j`ey> LarstiQ: what LLVM do you link against?

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08:00 <LarstiQ> j`ey: 16 for 0.11 and 17 for master/upcoming 0.12

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08:02 <j`ey> LarstiQ: I mean, do you build it yourself or?

08:02 <LarstiQ> yeah

08:02 <LarstiQ> or if you're asking if I build LLVM myself, no just using the nixpkgs versions

08:02 <j`ey> LarstiQ: gcc? clang? any special options?

08:03 <LarstiQ> j`ey: nix shell for https://github.com/mitchellh/zig-overlay/blob/main/templates/compiler-dev/ and then just `mkdir build && cd build && cmake .. && make`

08:04 <j`ey> I'll have to have a try tonight, didnt get it working after 2h+ last night :/

08:04 <LarstiQ> there is an option to set if you want a static zig binary at the end, I'd have to look up which that was

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08:06 <j`ey> I think I was try static (by default), and that may have been the issue

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08:24 <j`ey> oh hm i misread, not sure if its trying to link saticaally or dynamically

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09:04 <Foox> Just changed to Plasma after many, many years with gnome. Lovely experience on asahi!

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10:37 <j`ey> compile LLVM on my M2 air, it was 30-40mins

10:37 <j`ey> compiled it on my work machine (56 cores, 64G RAM), only 19mins

10:45 <leio> 8m10 on my M2

10:46 <j`ey> leio: m2... ultra

10:46 <leio> yes, but 24 cores (8 of which efficiency), not 56, so guess old-ish work machine cpu family?

10:47 <j`ey> some xeon, let me find out

10:47 <j`ey> Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 5120T CPU @ 2.20GHz

10:47 <j`ey> 2017, so yeah, quite old

10:49 <PaulFertser> Does M2 air perform better on tasks like that with external fans blowing on the bottom of it?

10:50 <j`ey> I would expect so, it does get a little warm

10:51 <j`ey> it's not really supposed to be a powerhorse! I just like it more than the pros

10:52 <PaulFertser> At least those Xeons are effectively permanently throttled. They have two RAPL levels, and e.g. a Xeon with 200 W TDP can actually do much more (as if it had 400 W) for a split-second but then RAPL will slow it down to keep the average within limits.

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10:54 <PaulFertser> They get accurate very fast real time data via a digital interface SVID from VR that powers it and automatically adjusts the frequencies all the time to keep limits.

10:55 <PaulFertser> And it's not the "turbo boost", that's another feature where under a mostly single-core load they automatically raise that core's frequency above normal range.

10:55 <j`ey> mac's have that

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10:57 <PaulFertser> RAPL levels are adjustable so if you are sure you can provide enough cooling for e.g. 300 W you can considerably improve the performance by tweaking it accordingly. The RAPL feedback loop is using consumed energy, not temperature, so it doesn't work automatic in that sense.

10:59 <PaulFertser> True not only for server Xeons but consumer Intel CPUs too.

11:00 <PaulFertser> (I hope it's not too offtopic, just to put things into perspective and share the knowledge about the existing widely used tech https://github.com/erpalma/throttled )

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16:59 <Cassie> Hello! I installed Akregator on Asahi Fedora and tried to run it, but it just freezes. Is it just a "me thing" or does it not work for others either?

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