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<jekstrand>
I need to get me some USB-C flash drives..
<robclark>
pretty useful to have when tinkering with chromebooks.. it's relatively hard to get them into a state where they won't at least boot a recovery image
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<jekstrand>
Ok, got a couple USB-C thumb drives on order that can do 300MB/s. That should be good enough for a dev drive.
* anholt
will, once again, highly recommend nfsroot for testing devices
<jekstrand>
But that means setting up NFS...
<anholt>
maybe this is my time at raspberry pi speaking, but small flash doesn't last and you might as well set up your precious environment somewhere that it will.
<anholt>
(my nfsroot is, incidentally, still named "rpi3")
<jekstrand>
heh. That's fair, I guess.
<anholt>
man, we really need to evict the "glsl optimization" tests from ci until someone can figure out how to make them run reliably.
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<airlied>
just buy some usb ssds :-)
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<zmike>
+100 for eviction ab me on any MR
<zmike>
anholt: also I was thinking on it more, and I think I can probably exclude at least some tests from the no-timelines run
<zmike>
will try and get something arranged for it in the next week or two
<anholt>
zmike: that would be rad! you've got a suite file on that new mr, so you can add fractional stuff pretty easily if deqp would be good enough coverage
<zmike>
I wish deqp was enough, but piglit has so much coverage for bizarre interactions like glx
<zmike>
I'll probably just add a bunch of -x excludes for stuff that's shader-only
<zmike>
that kind of thing
<zmike>
should be able to cut down the runtime by at least half I'd guess
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<imirkin>
jenatali: did you get heaven's tess to work properly? (can't tell from the screenshot)
<jenatali>
imirkin: I think so
<imirkin>
nice
<imirkin>
you have to enable it "separately"
<imirkin>
i.e. press the tessellation button (iirc F4? or some shortcut)
<jenatali>
Yeah I toggled it
<imirkin>
cool
<jenatali>
I did see some aliasing on the cobblestones that looked weird, but other tessellated surfaces looked right
<imirkin>
hmmm... aliasing?
<jenatali>
And I managed to disconnect the wireframe from the mesh. I don't think that was my fault but I dunno
<imirkin>
iirc it was pretty crisp, with the cobblestones gaining depth
<jenatali>
Yeah like shadow acne or something. Could be an artifact of SSAO
<imirkin>
and yeah, there's a tess wireframe mode
<imirkin>
or rather, there's a wireframe mode
<imirkin>
which uses tess to create the effect
<imirkin>
(at least that's my recollection)
<jenatali>
Right. That worked. But somehow toggling things on and off made the wireframe show up elsewhere lol
<imirkin>
that's ... odd
<imirkin>
i definitely don't remmeber that.
<jenatali>
Yeah I only saw it once and didn't debug it
<imirkin>
ah yeah. that can be hard to deal with
<imirkin>
could be something entirely unrelated to tess
<jenatali>
Yeah it happened with Tess disabled too. Was something like they only moved the wireframe for tessellated meshes while it was enabled and vice versa
<imirkin>
could be some flushign thing
<imirkin>
i also had a _very_ weird effect at 8x msaa due to broken blits, with like a lagging shadow. very neat effect.
<jenatali>
Interesting. Maybe I'll debug it more tomorrow
<imirkin>
z32 depth msaa blits were broken? something like that.
<imirkin>
[in nouveau ... not directly applicable to you, of course]
<imirkin>
anyways, a screenshot could be interesting to keep, if for no other reason than classifying the various potential failures
<imirkin>
i assume you've been trying the other unigine demos too?
<imirkin>
superposition, valley are good
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<jenatali>
I haven't, was just going through the issue backlog looking at apps that were supposedly broken
<imirkin>
fair enough :)
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<MrCooper>
cheako: as I wrote in my bug report, this worked fine up to Debian buster, so clearly not "asking the impossible" :)
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<MrCooper>
anholt: not finding any "glsl optimization" failures over the last week, got any pointers? If you mean "glsl lower-precision", it's because that still uses a tempfile instead of a pipe for IPC
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<tzimmermann>
danvet, airlied, mlankhorst, maxime_, i cannot send a PR for because of the following error: https://paste.opensuse.org/8144689
<tzimmermann>
i think there a double-quote missing near the end of the fixes line. but i cannot change it without resetting drm-misc-fixes :/
<danvet>
tzimmermann, oh sorry I pushed that with -f, should have fixed it
<danvet>
dim -f pull-request gets you through
<tzimmermann>
danvet, and upstream won't beat me up afterwards ?
<danvet>
dim tends to be stricter on this, linus never checks these
<tzimmermann>
lol
<tzimmermann>
ok
<tzimmermann>
i'll take your word for it
<danvet>
sfr from linux-next checks them, but I think we still don't have a regex that agress between the two of us really
<danvet>
I mean automated testing in linux is a mess unfortunately
<danvet>
it's decades away from a agreed-upon CI/build-rules consensus around what must pass and what is *meh*
<danvet>
but yeah I should have fixed this instead of just using dim -f
<danvet>
the thing is I tend to need dim -f for applying various pull requests, so got a bit too used to it :-(
<tzimmermann>
i'll send it with -f then. thanks for the help
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<emersion>
also conditional tracepoints, e.g. CONFIG_DRM_I915_LOW_LEVEL_TRACEPOINTS
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<dolphin>
mripard: general guidance is, only merge tracepoints you are able to maintain indefinitely
<dolphin>
or put some compile time protection
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<mripard>
dolphin: maintain, as in ABI-like or just something you shouldn't ever remove?
<dolphin>
yeah
<dolphin>
as the situation is blurry, Linus has clearly said that if some tool breaks due to tracepoint changes, those will be reverted
<dolphin>
lwn.net has coverages of past kernel summit discussions
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<dolphin>
on i915 side at least, the plan is to play it safe until there is further information
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<mripard>
It's what I heard too, and what was making me kind of uncomfortable. I don't really know that part of the driver well, so I can't judge whether it's something that is good enough or not.
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<jadahl>
zmike: that is getting fixed for gnome 42, but yea, has been naughty not adding the black background
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<cheako>
MrCooper: I'd be willing to write CI that builds and publishes Debian/Ubuntu packages. Though I don't see why there isn't a `/opt/mesa-main` that's statically linked to work on every system?
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<jenatali>
You can't statically link a shared object
<jenatali>
Or at least, if you can, I couldn't figure out how :)
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<cheako>
No you can't, but even things like libc can be compiled as statically linkable objects... You may even use a libc that's meant for this purpose, and xcb have stable enough ABIs static linking shouldn't be a problem.
<cheako>
These binaries are meant just for filing bug reports against.
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<zmike>
ccr: is there a reason pipe_texture_target values aren't dumped as enums?
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<ccr>
hmm
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<ccr>
zmike, apparently because new code has been added using the old way of dumping it as int, at least trace_screen_get_sparse_texture_virtual_page_size()
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<ccr>
I guess I should've noticed it, since it was before my changes got merged. but alas, I did not.
<sravn>
tzimmermann: Very nice benchmarks numbers for your fbdev patches, looks forward to what comes next!
<jenatali>
Yep that's it, flipping the checkbox turned my monitor into a CRT :P
<zmike>
happens to me all the time
<ccr>
we are already living in the matri.. metaverse? :|
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<jenatali>
Huh, it's related to shadows. Weird
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<FLHerne>
Does mesa compile against non-g libcs?
<FLHerne>
well, Windows, and BSD, so yes
<FLHerne>
and Alpine build against musl with some trivial patches
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<cheako>
The issue I was trying to solve was the ask by mesa's gitlab issue system requesting to run `git main` prior to posting about issues. That's understandable and it's technically possible to offer binary downloads for a handful of Linux distros... My suggestion was that it's not necessary to have unique builds for each distro, mesa could be compiled once to run on any Linux distro and this would work "good enough" for testing
<cheako>
without having one time testers painfully build from source.
<jenatali>
FLHerne: Can't forget Bionic
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<anholt>
airlied: is there a trick to remembering which lp builder to use when emitting llvm code?
<airlied>
anholt: the base one for float, the int_bld for ints, the uint for uints, but really float vs int is usually all that matters
<anholt>
I suspect my trouble may be in working with "scalar of the nir_dest's bit_size"
<airlied>
ah for scalars you have to hit the elem_type
<airlied>
depending on where you are feeding them into
<airlied>
you should never really be dealing with scalars though
<airlied>
since the whole idea is your execute 4-8 lanes of NIR
<anholt>
airlied: so, the thing I'm doing is some more offset_is_uniform checks. it's worth 40% of runtime on some of our slowest VK CTS tests
<anholt>
so if ssbo offset and index are uniform, load a scalar and broadcast
<anholt>
and then broadcast gets fussy that I messed up a type along the way
<airlied>
so some of those offset_is_uniform might be bad idea I've discovered
<airlied>
esp in the presence of lanes which aren't invoved
<airlied>
invoked
<airlied>
6f6f7d2680736371972c816698649b10f379b547 is sorta an exmaple
<airlied>
also 1ccac4abffa1b31bf376b323714e89a793b5f98b
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<anholt>
yeah, I've noticed some bugs in that area
<anholt>
also check the missing arm of emit_load_kernel_arg()
<airlied>
yeah kernel args afaik always uniform
<anholt>
yeah, that was my hope, but I've added an assert :)
<anholt>
so, I've thought that maybe we should instead of checking uniform for these knobs, perhaps we should be checking if it's constant.
<airlied>
and compute doesn't execute with missing lane 0
<airlied>
but fs does
* airlied
also isn't sure the uniform_is_constant check works the way I think it does wrt what nir passes need to be run
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<airlied>
I think the lcssa stuff might be a requirement for it to be accurate
<anholt>
did you mean nir_src_is_dynamically_uniform()?
<anholt>
I don't think you're supposed to need anything special for it.
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<airlied>
dschuermann: you might have some idea about it
<dschuermann>
err, whether divergence_analysis needs lcssa? then yes: otherwise you miss out on some loops and falsely expect uniformity
<dschuermann>
I should eventually find a solution that doesn't blow up, though :/
<anholt>
dschuermann: it sounds like we need a safety check on that function, then?
<dschuermann>
wait, is that helper even related to divergence analysis?
<dschuermann>
anholt: yes... or call to_lcssa() directly. it's a bit messy though
<dschuermann>
I would actually favor to maintain lcssa through NIR