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<alyssa>
bbrezillon: jenatali: "we need to skip all primitive-restart entries when turning the triangle fan into a triangle list, which implies serializing the index buffer rewrite procedure (at least I didn't find any clever way to parallelize things)"
<alyssa>
allow me to introduce you to the magic of parallel prefix sums :~)
<jenatali>
If you have a common meta pass for it, I'll take it
<jenatali>
But also we added triangle fans to D3D so we don't have to run that emulation path often
<alyssa>
jenatali: Oh, I don't think I'll be implementing that particular case, no
<alyssa>
we have native triangle fans & restart
<alyssa>
though I have similar problems for my GS-on-compute implementation
<alyssa>
I just think that it's a really fun puzzle of how to parallelize a kernel like that
<alyssa>
and parallel prefix sums are basically magic :3
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<DemiMarie>
alyssa: will GS-on-compute make Vulkan bringup easier for future drivers?
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<alkisg>
Hi, `echo on >/sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/DP-3/force` forces that output to on. How can I set it back to unspecified? It accepts on, off but I can't find anything that would set it to the initial unspecified state...
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<jani>
apparently gone already, but the answer would've been "unspecified"
<jani>
(super obvious...)
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<vsyrjala_>
isn't it "detect"? or is that an alias?
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<vsyrjala>
it's using a different string than the sysfs counterpart? apparently so. amazing
<vsyrjala>
and looks like the ON_DIGITAL string is also different :/
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<jani>
why not, the more the merrier :p
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<karolherbst>
jenatali: you think you have some time to think about this MR? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/24905 I want to reduce the size of two sysvalls to 32 bit to make it easier for drivers to enable CL (all drivers just upcast to 64 bit and it was always pointless to not let nir optimize against it generally). I don't think it will regress clon12, but still wanted to let you know about it.
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<jenatali>
karolherbst: I'm on parental leave until November. If CI is fine with it then it shouldn't impact us
<karolherbst>
ohh right.. I should check ci..
<karolherbst>
thanks for pointing that out :D
<karolherbst>
and have fun with your parental leave and everything
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<hakzsam>
anholt: airlied: FYI, I'm trying to update CTS in Mesa CI
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<alkisg>
jani: sorry my thunderbird irc client got "internal server error" and disconnected :/
<alkisg>
This is what I'm getting while trying it: root@alkis:/sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/DP-2# echo unspecified >force
<jani>
there's a char buf[12], and "unspecified\n\0" overflows that
<jani>
yet the code does otherwise accept \n in there, and it should work without -n for the shorter values
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<alkisg>
Yes echo on / echo off work fine, but of course also echo -n on..
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<youmukonpaku1337>
hi guys
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* jani
was going to link to some #nohello site but turns out there are at least six different dedicated no hello sites nowadays
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<MrCooper>
jani: FYI, 6.5 final is released
<jani>
MrCooper: *facepalm*
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<anholt>
alyssa: how do you feel about load_frag_coord_zw becoming separate z and w, so we could have separate sysvals for them?
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<alyssa>
anholt: that's fine with me, I think I even tried that before settling on the merged intrinsic
<alyssa>
the merged form is marginally more convenient for the two users, but if you're going to port another driver to using them and you need it split out, by all means
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<anholt>
I'm cleaning up intel fs interp spaghetti using your new bits, and it'll end up giving them less thread payload.
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<ayaka>
emersion, may I knew the email of James Jones. I am going to send my thought about allocation constraint sets. Or may you forward it?
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<alyssa>
anholt: wfm
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<orogor>
hi
<orogor>
i got graphic glitches on a radeon, not sure where to ask for suggestions
<orogor>
i use ubuntu with oibaf , and i think something broke sometime ago ... not sure where ...
<orogor>
not all ways of decoding videos have an issue
<kisak>
dcbaker: friendly nudge on mesa 23.2.0. It's been a month since we saw the last weekly release candidate. Want/need to hand it off to someone else?
<mattst88>
eric_engestrom: ^
<orogor>
xine on auto , so i gues vaapi has a full blue video, kodi has greenscale video output, i guess it also use vaapi, xine on opengl is ok
<orogor>
if that may be the issue , i use have mesa-va-drivers:amd64 23.3 installed ( mesa-va-drivers:amd64 (23.3~git2308290600.639bda~oibaf~l)
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<orogor>
... purging the repo .. so going back to 23.02
<orogor>
that fixes the issue
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<orogor>
.. trying a reboot
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<DemiMarie>
Do upstreamed GPU drivers have a better security track record than Nvidia’s proprietary drivers?
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<zmike>
mareko: how to determine INTERP_MODE_NOPERSPECTIVE with lowered io?
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<anholt>
zmike: do you have bary intrinsics?
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<anholt>
interp mode of that, in that case.
<zmike>
oh
<zmike>
hm
<zmike>
thx
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<idr>
alyssa: Right... I need to get back to that one of these days.
<alyssa>
I might give it a shot myself. TBD
<alyssa>
Need to think about how this interacts with continue constructs
<idr>
I seem to recall that I only did it in the most conservative set of cases.
<idr>
Basically... loops that would have been unrolled, but were too big or had too many iterations.
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* idr
tries to remember...
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<alyssa>
Sure
<alyssa>
The juicy optimization involves duplicating instrucitons
<alyssa>
I think
<alyssa>
> After this lands we might want helpers to detect a loop-with-terminating-if pattern but IDK what that would look like yet.
<alyssa>
I wrote this helper this morning, then realized it's a Bad Idea because backends can't do anything with it without introducing critical edges
<alyssa>
which is a no-go for SSA backends, without doing more patch up
<alyssa>
> Due to the way branch prediction works on CPUs, it should always be an improvement, but I don't have the same level of certainty about branching on GPUs
<alyssa>
I don't know that I followed this ... executing half the # of branches should be a win even with no branch predictor
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<airlied>
alyssa, gfxstrand : care to get a nir eye on 24803
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<alyssa>
nir eye for the reply?
<alyssa>
I don't do variables, sorry
<airlied>
maybe you should, challenge to get rid of compact :-P
<karolherbst>
the only purpose of variables is to get rid of them :P
<alyssa>
karol gets it
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<airlied>
the only incentive I have to ack that patch is it helps remove more TGSI :-)
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<karolherbst>
though to be frank, I keep my uniform variables around, because I can't see what's inside an ubo in the nir shader 🙃
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<alyssa>
airlied: I would love to ack, I just dont understand it
<zmike>
that's the best time to ack
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<airlied>
yeah all of the usefulness, none of the responsibility :)