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<brpr> PaulFertser, Hello again. I just want to ask how could I find out what PHYs my board is using?
<Tusker> heya brpr - should be in the factory dmesg
<brpr> Tusker, we meet again! :D I'll search for them, thanks
<Tusker> otherwise something like mdio-tools works well for PHY discovery
<brpr> ag71xx ag71xx.0: eth0: connected to PHY at ag71xx-mdio.0:00 [uid=004dd036, driver=Atheros AR8216/AR8236/AR8316] this is the only reference i can find in factory dmesg, Tusker
<Tusker> looks like index 0 on mdio bus
<Tusker> you can confirm it with mdio-tools if you want
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<brpr> Tusker, yeah so the problem is that all ethernet ports work but all are on the eth0 interface
<Tusker> ah, so not a phy problem then? just a switch tagging issue ?
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<brpr> PaulFertser said that I should examine other boards PHYs and I've just copied ethernet settings from zyxel
<PaulFertser> What about port 6 which is always connected to the switch but eth1 doesn't seem to work? I think it means your eth1 is misconfigured currently.
<PaulFertser> What does vendor dmesg say about eth1?
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<brpr> _ifconfig: name=eth1 flags=1243 IFUP addr=(null) netmask=(null)
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<Tusker> do you have ethtool or something else in the factory firmware you can test with ?
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<brpr> nope
<Tusker> then probably worthwhile trying with mdio-tools when you boot in initramfs
<brpr> I'll have to set up my workspace, brb in 20m :P
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<mangix> brpr: context?
<mangix> all ethernet ports being connected to the switch is normal
<brpr> mangix, go to yesterday's irc logs for this channel
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<Kali_> Hey, i got a question: I'm thinking of replacing procd on an openwrt image with runit, mainly because it would then be able to support starting services in parralel and having proper service dependencies. My main concern is -- from what i've read online, procd is integrated into the rest of the openwrt-specific subsystems like uci. So my main ask is this: In what ways is procd integrated into the
<Kali_> system? I.e what would i need to add to runit to restore functionality?
<dhewg> who's maintaining the ci setup of the package feed? the used distro is missing python3 distutils
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<mangix> dhewg: aparcar[m]
<dhewg> thx
<aparcar[m]> PR pls
<dhewg> aparcar[m]: see ci logs of https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/16304
<mangix> Kali_: parallel boot not being supported by procd is indeed annoying. I'd rather see systemd personally.
<dhewg> and why doesn't this hit on ci builds? https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=commitdiff;h=60af8d753343691c4a647bfc7c51ef6eb92df9f2
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<mangix> dhewg: I think he means at https://github.com/openwrt/gh-action-sdk
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<dhewg> maybe? i don't see a package list there that gets installed
<dhewg> (where we could add python3-distutils)
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<Pepes> It's somewhere else. If I am not mistaken, it's a long time when I take a look at OpenWrt's GitHub CI, it should be here: https://github.com/openwrt/docker
<dhewg> ah, that might be it, in Dockerfile.base
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<aparcar[m]> dhewg: thanks, is this already installed in the buildbot?
<aparcar[m]> dhewg: https://gitlab.com/openwrt/docker/-/merge_requests/48 what do you think of that?
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<dhewg> aparcar[m]: i think distutils is available on buildbots, not 100% sure, but that topic came up before
<mangix> dhewg: it isn't
<dhewg> oh
<dhewg> shouldn't all jobs fail then?
<dhewg> because of my prereq patch?
<mangix> beats me
<mangix> actually... hmmmm
<mangix> I think they already have it
<mangix> IIRC, those distutils failures started happening with the GitHub CI
<dhewg> i vaguely remember they do too, but haven't checked
<mangix> ah now I remember
<mangix> they have it
<mangix> I was confusing my minimal Debian container with the main one
<dhewg> aparcar[m]: that looks good too, but no idea about failures because of those missing packages
<dhewg> but isn't ccache build very early? dunno if that's actually used?
<Pepes> aparcar[m]: Python2 should not be necessary at all right in OpenWrt master and OpenWrt 21.02 AFAIK?
<mangix> it is not
<Pepes> Should I comment it on the GitLab or is this enough? I wonder about qemu-utils as well. I think I will check it on my end.
<Pepes> Thanks for confirming, mangix. :-)
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<mrkiko> wigyori: ping
<mangix> on that note, it seems Alpine Linux can't compile Perl or Python for some strange reason
<mangix> gcc crashes
<mangix> dhewg: another build dependency to add would be kernel-headers
<mangix> tools/cmake fails to compile without it
<dhewg> and maybe perl modules, i noticed those in include/prereq-build.mk
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<dhewg> they may be dragged in through another dependency though, dunno
<karlp> why does cmake need kernel headers?
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<mangix> karlp: something in it includes linux/fs.h
<aparcar[m]> dhewg: please ping me if the merge did not resolve the issue. By now new docker containers should be online available, aka re-running the CI could fix things
<Pepes> aparcar[m]: Why it was necessary to include there Python? Should I create PR to remove it?
<aparcar[m]> Pepes: oh sorry I skipped that. It's required as the base image is also used for older releases, which partly still use P2
<Pepes> It was not there before. Yeah, I know. 19.07 requires it, but as RC4 of OpenWrt 21.02 is released, then the 19.07 will be EoL, so it does not make much sense to fix it, but anyway ok
<Pepes> EoL soon*
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<dhewg> aparcar[m]: afaict my commit is unmerged?
<dhewg> yours is in, e.g. python3-pip is there, but no python3-distutils
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<brpr> PaulFertser, I have gotten into syslog. dnsmasq-tftp[1349]: cannot access /var/ftpd/openwrt.bin: Permission denied
<mrkiko> brpr: chmod and chown can help you out here
<brpr> mrkiko, I have already chmod'ed it to 777 and chowned it to 'nobody'
<mrkiko> brpr: mhm...
<mrkiko> brpr: for some reasons dnsmasq can't read it
<Tusker> maybe it can't read /var/ftpd/ or should it be /var/tftpd/ ?
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<brpr> mrkiko, I did it. I needed to enable the apparmor profile.
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<mangix> Pepes: any opinion on https://github.com/sabotage-linux/gettext-tiny ?
<Pepes> I'd say that it does not look bad at all! It seems to be developed, maintainer. However, I'm using gettext-full.
<PaulFertser> brpr: oh, apparmor. What distro are you using?
<brpr> PaulFertser, OpenSUSE
<PaulFertser> brpr: will keep it mind when I hear someone else struggling, thank you.
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<brpr> PaulFertser, now I don't have the Windows machine, it was an SSD swap for my aunt lol :)
<karlp> brpr: dnsmasq probably isn't running as nobody?
<brpr> I dunno. It works now - so yay!
<karlp> well, yeah, apparmour is a trainwreck there too
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<brpr> damn. now i started to get garbage
<mrkiko> brpr: garbage from serial?
<brpr> mrkiko, yes.
<mrkiko> wigyori: ping
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<brpr> PaulFertser, the router is DEAD! :O
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<mrkiko> brpr: no more serial output?
<brpr> mrkiko, no more power to the board!
<mrkiko> brpr: short-circuit or something like that ?
<brpr> nope, not shorting
<brpr> also has 3.3v
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<karlp> I've got a package that's marked @broken, it's not selected, neitehr y, nor m. but if the package is "installed" in the feed, it attempts to check out it's files and fails.
<karlp> what's likely be causing that? some sort of PROVIDES= explosion?
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<brpr> mrkiko and PaulFertser please help!!! i've been messing with my serial connections and pulled vcc pad on the board! i didn't plug anything into it, solderwick was the culprit. it also freaking pulled from the other side. i have rebuilt the trace coming from resistor to pad but the router is dead dead. no lights but i get 3.3v
<karlp> I mean, yes, the ref is gone, the branch got force pushed, but why is the build system even _trying_ to clone that package?
<karlp> I always have ot uninstall that package explicitly.
<brpr> I found the culprit. 2r2 coil disintegrated :P
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<mrkiko> brpr: eheh sorry, I wouldn't have known how to help
<mrkiko> brpr: does it work now?
<brpr> I need to buy the coil :P
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<wigyori> mrkiko: pong
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<botchedrepair> Dumb question but while waiting on the coil to arrive how could I git pull without overwriting local changes? stash?
<botchedrepair> Oh and I'm brpr, my PC bugged out
<PaulFertser> botchedrepair: yes, git stash, git pull, git stash pop
<botchedrepair> right, thanks. will look into tommorow when I'm bored waiting for the coil to arrive :D
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<aparcar[m]> dhewg: I added python3-pip which automatically pulls in distutils
<dhewg> aparcar[m]: oh, alright ;) thanks!
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<mangix> hell has frozen over. ath9k actually crashed
<mangix> I would expect that of ath10k
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<stintel> wut
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<mangix> stintel: ?
<stintel> ath9k crash? I don't believe it
<mangix> might be some new codepath
<stintel> o_O
<mangix> ath9k_ps_restore is some power saving garbage
<mangix> I do remember commits that fix stuff regarding that
<mangix> guess it's still buggy
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<mangix> This E7350 has uFLX wifi connectors (or w/e they're called) that go to internal antennas. Wonder if I should mod it.
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<mangix> alright, E7350 placed in production
<mangix> hope I don't regret it
<rsalvaterra> Dang…! They really paired the MT7621 with the MT7915.
<rsalvaterra> mangix: How fast is it?
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<mangix> rsalvaterra: faster than my archer c7v2 with external antennas. holy shit.
<mangix> I'm strongly considering modding this now.
<rsalvaterra> Oh, come on, that's not much of a challenge…
<mangix> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 370 MBytes 310 Mbits/sec <-- iperf
<mangix> archer c7v2 was around 210. turris omnia even weaker.
<mangix> 140 maybe
<rsalvaterra> Turris Omnia was *what*…? o_O
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<mangix> slower
<rsalvaterra> Wait, you're talking about wireless performance, right?
<mangix> yes
<mangix> mt7915 is ax
<rsalvaterra> Bah. You're comparing good ax hardware to buggy ac wave 1.
<mangix> I am
<rsalvaterra> You can stick a couple of MT7915's in the Omnia too… ;)
<mangix> I thought mt7915 was still under development. but it seems to work just fine.
<mangix> rsalvaterra: how?
<mangix> everything I see online is untuned OEM samples
<slh> wasn't cz.nic experimenting with mt7915e upgrades? but power delivery and heat can be a real problem for retrofitting older devices with 802.11ax cards
<rsalvaterra> Ok, when they're available in volume, granted.
<mangix> slh: have to ask them.
<slh> I've seen something on their forum, a few months ago (and I'm not really following that)
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<rsalvaterra> slh: It would be nice to have CZ.NIC-sanctioned MT7915 card upgrades for the Omnia, for sure.
<mangix> I think they were testing ath11k cards
<mangix> or both. who knows.
<mangix> Pepes: ping
<rsalvaterra> Ath11k?! *facepalm*
<slh> first ath11k (unsuccessfully, power, heat), then mt7915e
<rsalvaterra> Thank goodness!
<slh> /asiarf-aw7915-np1-802-11ax-wifi6/15686/5
<mangix> rsalvaterra: I mean they are using an ath10k card
<rsalvaterra> mangix: Yeah, at the time, the QCA9880 was probably the best supported in Linux.
<rsalvaterra> That doesn't make it good hardware, though.
<slh> rsalvaterra: qca9984 would have been possible back then
<slh> and there's a world of a difference between qca9980 and qca9984
<slh> err
<slh> and there's a world of a difference between qca9880 and qca9984
<rsalvaterra> Sure, but it was way more expensive for a router which cost already almost 300 €.
<rsalvaterra> My biggest peeve is CZ.NIC not selling extra diplexers. :P
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<mangix> alright. looks like I have two unused Archer C7v2s
<rsalvaterra> mangix: You could try and replace their miniPCIe cards with something more modern. :)
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<mangix> well, actually one of the archers is a v3
<rsalvaterra> (And looking at the original one, I don't imagine power delivery being a problem.)
<mangix> difference being beefed up hardware: https://photos.app.goo.gl/2wG8f48ERS9PVizw5
<mangix> *crazy idea* : take the minipcie card from the v2 and place it in the omnia
<mangix> only problem is that it won't be ax
<rsalvaterra> Nooooooooo!
<mangix> ?
<rsalvaterra> That's a QCA9880-AR1A!
<mangix> no it's not
<mangix> it's the B variant
<rsalvaterra> It's not?
<rsalvaterra> BR4A?
<mangix> I believe so. The one that works with OpenWrt
<rsalvaterra> If so, it's the same as the Omnia's. Not really an improvement.
<mangix> rsalvaterra: incorrect. It's much bigger
<mangix> bigger is better
<rsalvaterra> (The one in the Omnia is a later hardware revision, so probably consumes less power.)
<mangix> from my experience, it has better wifi performance
<mangix> probably because of on board amplifiers
* mangix definitely wants to do this :)
<rsalvaterra> Hm. But then you'd just have the 5 GHz band. And no space to install any other card, probably.
<rsalvaterra> But hey, why not? For science, of course.
<mangix> rsalvaterra: my thinking is to use the two outer mPCIe ports.
<mangix> so that they won't toch
<rsalvaterra> I think one of them is mSATA only. Not really sure.
<mangix> nah they're all mPCIe. One of them also supports mSATA
<rsalvaterra> DeviWiki seems to agree with you. It's actually better than the APU2.
<rsalvaterra> I *really* wanted four diplexers… :P
<mangix> well now I have an issue
<rsalvaterra> When good MT7915 cards become available, one for each band…
<mangix> there's a screw I can't get rid of
<mangix> This is what happens when you put a screw with non-standard threading
<rsalvaterra> Moar torque! :P
<mangix> it's not that
<mangix> it just spins in place
<rsalvaterra> Ouch. That's not good.
<Tapper> mangix I have one of thos in my mobo. Just spins and spins. It's stuck in one of the stand offs from the back of a old case. lol fucking cheep cases!
<mangix> got it out
<mangix> had to use a plastic card
<Tapper> I could not get out so when I soped to a new case I just punched a hold in the mobo tray to poke the end through
<Tapper> Nice
<rsalvaterra> I… have a bigger problem: my dev machine at home didn't come up after reboot.
<rsalvaterra> Since I'm about 290 km from it, not OpenWrt work until I get home, next Saturday. :P
<rsalvaterra> *no
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<mangix> just barely :)
<rsalvaterra> mangix: How emotionally attached are you to that leftmost 1 cm of card? xD
<mangix> lol why?
<rsalvaterra> Wait, no, don't cut it, just joking. :P
<slh> did you remove the heatsink?
<mangix> no
<slh> o.k., I apparently mixed up the previous photos then
<mangix> I'm not touching my v3 :)
<slh> ;)
<mangix> rsalvaterra: which 2ghz card should I use=
<rsalvaterra> The WLE200N2 is the original AR9287, right?
<rsalvaterra> What's the card on the left?
<mangix> R11e-5HnD Microtik
<mangix> it has a heatsink so it must be powerful :)
<rsalvaterra> Actually, there's an even better reason.
<rsalvaterra> AR9580. It can double as a hwrng. ;)
<mangix> Is AR9580 newer or something?
<rsalvaterra> (And so does the AR9287, but only with a patch I'm carrying. :P)
<rsalvaterra> Yes, it's newer, for sure.
<mangix> oh sorry
<mangix> R11e-2HPnD
<mangix> the other one is the 5ghz version
<rsalvaterra> https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/Atheros#AR9200.2FAR9500_series
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