<slh> Tapper: e.g. RPI4 + USB3 ethernet card (retaining the r7800 as managed switch and AP), nanopi r4s + r7800 as AP/ switch (availability and prices are going into the wrong direction at the moment) - or betting on wifi6 with the Belkin rt3200 (fully supported) or Xiaomi AX3600 (not quite supported yet)
<slh> ...either may profit from a cheap second hand rtl838x based (OpenWrt supported) switch ;)
<Tapper> slh yeah you have a point.
<Tapper> That m300 would have to be put in a place where you could not here it to mutch.
<slh> yep
<slh> all of the examples above are fanless and silent
<Tapper> I did look at the Belkin rt3200 but the cost was to high
<slh> with the larger switches above 16 ports you need to get the right model (some are fanless, others aren't)
<slh> prices have risen from ~95 EUR to ~155 EUR over the last two weeks
<Tapper> What about putting a pasave heat sink on the m300?
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<slh> Tapper: not an option, it's basically built like a small 1U rack server, active server PSU, small active fan in the back - you could probably run the board fanless in an open case, but not the PSU
<Tapper> O rite.
<slh> pretty much like an x86_64 mainboard sitting inside the case (with quite a few empty space around it)
<slh> Tapper: if you're patient and persistent, you can often get a 24 port (passively cooled) smart-managed L2 switch under 45 EUR in good/ used condition, even 15-20 EUR for an 8 port one
<slh> rtl838x based
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<Tusker> rtl838x based to can run openwrt potentially ?
<Tusker> s/to/so/
<slh> Tusker: there are quite a few rtl838x based devices that aren't supported by OpenWrt, but would probably be relatively easy to get supported
<slh> e.g the whole ZyXEL gs1900 model range (only the gs1900-48 is rtl839x based, there is proof of concept code for that SOC, but it's not merged yet)
<Tusker> should probably replace my cisco 3560 at some stage
<Tapper> I just had my wife look to see what the m300 looks like and tell me. lol she just said no! hahahah it's brite red.
<slh> https://biot.com/switches/models those are the known ones so far, not all of them are supported yet - some probably never will be (not enough flash/ RAM), some will be very difficult (vendor locked down u-boot, hello HPE, TP-Link) - but most of them /could/ be supported
<Tapper> It would defo have to be put in a cupboard
<Tusker> slh: ah cool, good list to create an alert
<slh> the NanoPi r4s is an interesting device (form-factor/ design wise it appears to be nicer than the RPi4 solution, although the RPi4 should be slightly faster), but availability and prices aren't good at the moment
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<wulfy23> possible sluggish logd or similar regression recent master post procd -init- for a few seconds
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<wulfy23> not seen on reboot... likely false alarm (again)
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<enyc> digitalcircuit: given what you say, and page you linked, disabling l2 cache sorts it, .... definitely I would try either slightly increaed volts or certainly if this is an onboard physical separate buck-converter I'd certainly try adding a bit more low-ESR filter capacitance across the output reservoir on that buck-cnverter ...
<enyc> digitalcircuit: the point being external PSU (may) be nothing so much to do with it, it may be a "loaded within inch of its life" internal buck converter (voltage dropping) supply ...
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<digitalcircuit> To clarify, I'm not entirely disabling L2 cache, just the highest frequency, but what you've said makes sense.
<digitalcircuit> enyc: Noted, thank you!
<digitalcircuit> I don't know if the NBG6817 has an accessible internal buck converter; the voltage level is controlled via software so I'm (naively) guessing it's a surface mount component somewhere. Even so, your point on why the external PSU would not affect it as a result seems plausible too.
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<mrkiko> enyc: are you the guy experimenting with voltate and ipq8xxx?
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<enyc> mrkiko: no
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<rsalvaterra> stintel: It would be nice if the kernel had AltiVec implementations of the crypto used by WireGuard. Unfortunately it still hasn't. :(
<rsalvaterra> ... but nothing to be seen in arch/powerpc/crypto, though.
<stintel> I gave up on WireGuard
<rsalvaterra> You what...? o_O
<stintel> set up a working config, works for random time, then starts allocating random ports and only way to convince it to not do that is reboot
<stintel> also don't like that I need to use different ports for each tunnel
<rsalvaterra> stintel: I've seen those random port changes too. Happen quite seldom. I wonder if zx2c4 is aware of the issue...?
<stintel> I'll just stick to IPsec / strongSwan, at least that is stable and does what I want
<stintel> I have too much other things on my plate anyway
<stintel> I found a thread about a similar issue, the answer was "ydiw", not very encouraging to start a new one about the same issue either
<rsalvaterra> That's weird...
<rsalvaterra> Unfortunately I have no idea how to reproduce it.
<stintel> yeah, the thing is, I expect my tunnels to be up, if they're down that causes holes in my stats, monitoring alerts, etc
<stintel> so I just gave up, it's too frustrating, and my IPsec configs are rock solid, so I don't see the point
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<rsalvaterra> In my case, I lose access to my machines at home (and the networking equipment at the office). Not really desirable either.
<stintel> and querying about things here didn't result in anything useful, either
<stintel> yeah, a suggestion to ask in #openwrt
<rsalvaterra> Got to go now. Nap time. :P
<rsalvaterra> Cheers!
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<PaulFertser> abiliomarques: that said, https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/4d5b62263c6367dae888c6833b013dffda155c16 is there already?
<abiliomarques> what do you mean? I was wondering why not using something like musl 1.2.2
<PaulFertser> abiliomarques: oh, I was too fast reading, just assumed you mentioned a version where it was fixed.
<abiliomarques> musl 1.2.1 included a new malloc (mallocng) that in theory does not use floating point
<abiliomarques> most of the MIPS I have don't have a FPU
<zx2c4> stintel: rsalvaterra: ive never heard of any of this about random port changes. Would have been nice to get a real bug report about that. On the otherhand, the fact that you witnessed a bug, didnt report it or do anything with it, and then just moved on elsewhere doesn't give me much motivation to chase down something youre seeing but others arent. If you'd like this fixed, though, please get in touch with real details; you
<zx2c4> know where to find me
<PaulFertser> abiliomarques: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/openwrt/patch/20200829032821.252703-1-rosenp@gmail.com/ it was superseded but I can't find what with, probably a github pull request, you should probably check there.
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<zx2c4> Thanks!
<stintel> probably not super useful, but that's why I found in my IRC history this year
<zx2c4> Weird bug, no idea. Seems like a openwrt script issue?
<zx2c4> Might be useful to open a GitHub report?
<stintel> could be, never got any useful responses, so wasn't sure if openwrt or wg problem
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<stintel> hence not reported upstream, etc
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<zx2c4> Sun Mar 14 15:21:41 2021 daemon.err netifd[2253]: proto_shell_handler(231): run setup for interface 'wg0'Sun Mar 14 15:21:42 2021 daemon.err netifd[2253]: interface_set_available(465): Interface 'wg0', available=0Sun Mar 14 15:21:42 2021 daemon.err netifd[2253]: proto_shell_handler(231): run teardown for interface 'wg0'
<stintel> and netifd being the black box that it is doesn't help
<zx2c4> Upstream or downstream, a good bug report helps, and also i help maintain the downstream package
<zx2c4> Those three lines seem to indicate the trouble beginning -- something happens during setup, and then it backs out
<mrkiko> Hello! I am still in the process of trying to port R6100 to ath79. I am at the point where I am able to exchange ICMP replies with the device and obtain replies only for packets of about 40 bytes in size
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<mrkiko> I set the pll values for ar9344
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<mrkiko> but I guess I'm failing to tell the builtin switch to go to analog mode or something
<mrkiko> Tapper: u-boot is very nice on that device. It's opne-source, you can customize it to be more accessible
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<Slimey> :p
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<ldir> stintel: ping - did my workaround actually work?
<stintel> ldir: not tested yet, I've picked it up in my gcc10 branch but not built yet
<stintel> and I can't runtime test anyway, I have no devices
<stintel> only a huawei cdc_ether something
<ldir> Ahhh, ok, I thought you had a device to test with.
<stintel> nein, it's just I knew it was broken on some targets + gcc10, and I want to get gcc10-by-default out of my local tree
<stintel> too much local crap, it's almost unmaintainable
<ldir> ack :-)
<stintel> darn, kicked my odroid c2 offline
<stintel> at least it still load u-boot, so it's not the bump to 2021.07
<stintel> see, too much local crap :P
<stintel> I started on mesongx target 4 years ago :(
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<stintel> rekt
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<stintel> any non-trial-and-error ways to debug boot hang after Starting kernel ...
<rsalvaterra> stintel: Ouch. I suppose you're already on serial, right?
<PaulFertser> And earlycon enabled?
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<stintel> PaulFertser: no earlycon in arm64
<stintel> rsalvaterra: yes, same symptoms on serial + hdmi
<PaulFertser> stintel: ~/linux/arch/arm64$ git grep earlycon disagrees
<stintel> PaulFertser: make kernel_menuconfig didn't show EARLY_PRINTK ..
<PaulFertser> stintel: I think it's because it was renamed to earlycon.
<PaulFertser> stintel: CONFIG_SERIAL_EARLYCON and made cross-arch
<stintel> cool, ty
<stintel> let's hope it helps something
<stintel> otherwise I think I'm just going to decomission this odroid c2 and nuke my meson branch
<PaulFertser> And it should be enabled via the kernel command line.
<stintel> setenv bootargs "root=PARTUUID=5452574f-02 rootwait ro rootfstype=ext4,squashfs console=ttyAML0,115200 earlycon"
<PaulFertser> SERIAL_MESON_CONSOLE already enables the necessary options.
<PaulFertser> earlycon might be able to get the necessary addresses from DT, I'm not sure whether it always works or not.
<stintel> nada :(
<rsalvaterra> Crap... :/
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<mangix> speaking of meson, wish everything would transition to it and CMake. Autotools sucks.
<stintel> different meson tho ;)
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<stintel> that's what I hoped to reach eventually, but kicking off already with my commit from a couple of weeks ago
<dangole> stintel: yes, funny, I also wasn't aware of that one. and yes, i do believe this is a good idea because the amount of duplication and arbitrariness hurts.
<dangole> stintel: and then, once we gave that vfat partition a uniform size, we can try to get rid of it altogether ;)
<dangole> stintel: I
<stintel> dangole: at least it's somewhat back on some radars ;)
<stintel> I've actively commented on that PR, but I guess 3 years is too long to remember :P
<stintel> wooot, odroid booting again
<stintel> downgraded from 5.10 to 5.4 and is fine now
<stintel> went from 4.19 -> 5.10
<stintel> maybe did something wrong there
<stintel> at least I now have a working interim step
<mangix> stintel: since your build environment is special, do you build with CONFIG_ALL ?
<stintel> mangix: only when doing big changes like gcc10
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<stintel> hmmm, the odroid c2 config had gcc 7, could it be that kernel 5.10 didn't boot because of too old gcc?
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