<stintel> ugh, 3AM again
<mangix> found out why DSA is not working. kernel 5.4. AGH
<Tusker> stintel: sleep is for the weak :)
<stintel> :P
<stintel> well I have an automation in home-assistant that turns off lights, tv, amplifiers, ... at 3AM
<Tusker> ah, now you can hear the m300 fan
<stintel> :D
<stintel> no no
<stintel> but as internal dns is handled by dnsmasq still, and I have yet to HA that, internal hostnames don't resolve anymore, and my home-assistant tab in browser is broken so I can't turn on the lights again
<stintel> there we go, main m300 is back
<stintel> I was doing a setup with 2x OC200 and kea dhcp and was going to add probably powerdns auth for dns in full HA DHCP/DNS setup
<stintel> but I nuked one of the oc200 while handling comments to upstream the NOR flash chip
<stintel> so it's currently on one leg
<stintel> and I kind of decided to abandon the oc200
<Tusker> i have a static IP and advertising a /24 off my main router, it would be interesting to handle proper failover for it, does kea dhcp handle distribution of the leases ?
<stintel> what do you mean by distribution of the leases?
<Tusker> ie, the hosts that have obtained the lease, and then you fail over dhcp to another box, it won't have /tmp/dhcpd.leases for example, and DNS will fail until the client renews, right ?
<stintel> leases are synced between the DHCP nodes
<stintel> DNS ... I had not added that part so cannot comment on that
<stintel> it would be a complex setup for a home network
<stintel> but as I'm half HA already, it only makes sense to add that
<stintel> well, to me at least ;)
<stintel> already happy that external connectivity keeps working when main router is dead
<stintel> so I can easily access the offsite backup ;)
<Tusker> it would be interesting to be able to take out my main router for maintenance and not have to worry about other people in the house complaining
<stintel> aye
<stintel> well, I have no other people in the house
<stintel> but I complain a lot myself :D
<Tusker> :) if you don't complain, how do you know you are doing anything wrong?
<stintel> but that's the main idea why I have dedicated dual router/firewall, multiple APs
<stintel> and then came the idea to move DHCP/DNS/MQTT to yet other separate nodes
<stintel> the OC200 looked nice, but it's a major pita to work with
<stintel> getting TTL is insane
<stintel> and apparently clamping the NOR is also impossible
<stintel> I managed to get flashrom to detect the chip once in 200 attempts or so
<Tusker> did you desolder it ? remove the reset lines ?
<stintel> used different clamps, different readers, different jumper wires, ...
<stintel> no
<Tusker> there is probably a ground sink or something that is messing with your attempts
<stintel> it works, 100% sure, I've done it once, with a clamp that I threw because low quality, and on 3.3v
<stintel> which nuked the flash chip as it's 1.8v :P
<stintel> but it worked twice
<stintel> and got twice the same image (same checksum)
<stintel> so I bought new clamp, 3M, turns out that's even bigger shite
<stintel> I'd RPi but find a nice case compatible with PoE HAT ...
<stintel> also not entirely open
<stintel> so meh
<Tusker> also, I find it's too popular, so not interesting enough
<stintel> and then there's Ubiquiti with their damn habbit of making non-standard PoE-PD devices
<stintel> maybe I'll just throw everything on the m300
<stintel> instead of using separate devices for it
<stintel> but first I want to get that qoriq target in a state that is acceptable to add to master
<Tusker> yeah, good plan
<Tusker> btw, m300 ethernet DTS ?
<Tusker> is it marvell behind etsec ?
<stintel> hmm, did I not write that ?
<stintel> maybe in my matrix window which seems a bit bugged
<stintel> 17|01:46:25 < stintel> basically I started from t2081qds.dts
<Tusker> OK, thanks
<stintel> which on its own is a complete mess of includes
<Tusker> ah, different to the xtm330 then
<stintel> on the other hand makes https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/stintel.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/qoriq/files/arch/powerpc/boot/dts/fsl/watchguard-firebox-m300.dts;h=871f5410f221ff2e502c235fc0ea635c292f2907;hb=refs/heads/qoriq relatively clean
<aparcar[m]> mangix meson semm to work fine.
<Tusker> it does use a marvell switch though, so pretty close
<aparcar[m]> mangix do you know what the minimum required version is?
<stintel> crazy enough, the decompiled DTS of the M200 contained vitesse-9953
<stintel> which is complete and utter nonsense
<stintel> but what do you expect from OEMs :)
<stintel> I removed the heatsinks on the M200, it's the same marvell as on the m300
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<slh> who knows, perhaps they used that during development
<mangix> wow so this makes no sense
<mangix> build_dir contains only linux-5.10 but when flashing the image it says 5.4
<mangix> uname that is
<Tusker> usually when that happens the build has failed and didn't create the image
<Tusker> and the old image is there
<stintel> something like that seems to work
<Tusker> seems sensible to me
<stintel> I'd be curious to see if using that globally fixes the chrony crash for me, and maybe even the crashes and ext4 corruption with CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY
<stintel> and maybe even the use of squashfs images
<stintel> good thing I can build a full image in < 15 minutes
<stintel> hmm, now it was routing inter-vlan on same physical interface at 22MB/s
<stintel> before the reboot 10 times slower
<stintel> that's not good
<aparcar[m]> mangix: ping
<aparcar[m]> your meson add commit message is empty
<aparcar[m]> could you please provide a short pitch why it's great?
<stintel> Tusker: unfortunately chrony still crashes here :(
<stintel> ok, further debugging is for tomorrow / weekend
<Tusker> sleep well
<stintel> thanks
<stintel> also looks like the kernel didn't pick up that extra flag
<stintel> but that shouldn't matter for userspace
<stintel> anyway
* stintel &
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<mangix> aparcar[m]:ok
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<aparcar[m]> mangix: ping me and I'll make it happen
<mangix> aparcar[m]: done
<mangix> aparcar[m]: also, minimum required version for what?
<aparcar[m]> it's fine, minimum is 3.6
<mangix> yeah they want compatibility with Ubuntu AFAIK
<aparcar[m]> ninja: fatal: chdir to '/home/user/src/openwrt/openwrt/build_dir/host/pkgconf-1.8.0/openwrt-build' - No such file or directory
<aparcar[m]> so the cleanup issue is still there
<aparcar[m]> running cleanup twice shouldn't crash anything
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* mangix looks
<mangix> aparcar[m]: it doesn't crash
<mangix> run it without V=s
<aparcar[m]> user@reactor ~/src/openwrt/openwrt (master) $ echo $?
<aparcar[m]> 2
<mangix> aparcar[m]: example failure after breaking it: https://gist.github.com/neheb/45c62f50c9773fcff4a571084c2de1ae
<aparcar[m]> also please rebase
<mangix> rebased
<mangix> aparcar[m]: that chdir error is intentionally ignored.
<aparcar[m]> pushed
<aparcar[m]> mangix: will you take care of packages.git?
<mangix> yeah sure
<mangix> I don't think my commit will work yet though. Pretty sure it needs an SDK update.
<aparcar[m]> you mean the SDK is broken now?
<mangix> no I mean a new one is needed
<mangix> I takes a day for a new one to be created AFAIK
<aparcar[m]> oh yea sure
<aparcar[m]> sure. we should also remove meson from packages in general right?
<aparcar[m]> can you send me your apk meson rework again please?
<mangix> aparcar[m]: you're lucky. I got rid of it locally but didn't force push my branch yet
<mangix> refactred is not spelled right
<aparcar[m]> thanks
<mangix> btw that @!arc dependency is somewhat worrying. Although for development it's perfectly fine.
<aparcar[m]> I'll ask upstream at some point
<mangix> Upstream is Alpine Linux. I doubt they care about a non musl supported architecture. Speaking of which, Synopsis really needs to add musl support...
<aparcar[m]> upstream does care, there is some integration happening
<mangix> anyway, replacing opkg with apk sounds good
<mangix> apk is extremely fast on my desktop
<mangix> it and pacman are very close
<aparcar[m]> how big is pacman?
<mangix> 157368 locally. it's probably glibc only
<mangix> size is not really the goal anyway
<mangix> alright. time to get rid of gettext
<aparcar[m]> why?
<mangix> it was only needed for uClibc, which is now gone.
<mangix> rsalvaterra: you'll probably like this: https://gist.github.com/neheb/5f3636eb8008431239f73613cbf543b6
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<aparcar[m]> mangix: that's a nice benchmark
<mangix> :)
<mangix> The delta of ath79 swconfig to DSA is ~70
<mangix> now to get these LEDs working
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<Namidairo> don't forget to bump the image version when you're done so you get *less* people complaining on sysupgrade
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<slh> the former is the easy part... the later will happen either way (just count the number of complaints and questions about dsa on ramips and mvebu - or even the complaints about 'presumably dsa related issues' on ath79 in 21.02.0...)
<slh> damned if you do, damned if you don't
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<slh> (and I'm only counting complaints about a "strange message preventing the sysupgrade", not genuines questions of how to implement a(ny) slightly complicated configuration with dsa (this I do have some issues with myself))
<mangix> slh: what?
<mangix> i seem to have missed something
<slh> mangix: 07:32:28 < Namidairo> don't forget to bump the image version when you're done so you get *less* people complaining on sysupgrade
<mangix> what are these dsa issues on ath79?
<slh> none (that I know of), as I understood it the hint was more generic (about setting the compat_version for dsa)
<Namidairo> I think they're making fun of the fact that only one device in ath79 was ported to DSA but people are chalking up issues to it anyway
<mangix> there are no ath79 devices using DSA
<Namidairo> release notes say only the TL-WR941ND is
<slh> only the tl-wr941nd v2/ v3 - but that one has done so for years already, without anyone noticing
<slh> courtesy of its mv88e6060 switch
<mangix> I don't see where it's using DSA. CONFIG_DSA is not enabled for the kernel
<mangix> ah I see it now. It's is the tiny target
<mangix> *in
<slh> yep
<slh> a fringe oddity
<mangix> anyway, generic has no DSA. That's only WIP at this point
<slh> (even ar71xx in 17.01.x was already using DSA for the tl-wr941nd v2/ v3 with mv88e6060)
<mangix> that's somewhat strange
<mangix> wonder why the swconfig driver was used for so long
<mangix> for other devices that is
<slh> https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=blob;f=target/linux/ar71xx/config-4.4;h=91eb9f0de7ef6c472cdccf2022d888df53b75e46;hb=refs/heads/lede-17.01 --> CONFIG_NET_DSA_MV88E6060=y && CONFIG_NET_DSA_MV88E6063=y
<slh> basically no other devices are using MV88E6060/ MV88E6063 switches
<slh> ancient 100 MBit/s stuff, a decade out of fashion
<mangix> sure but there's the modern marvell stuff
<slh> no interesting devices using DSA --> no luci integration for DSA --> no impetus for DSA --> rinse and repeat
<mangix> anyway, the most successful transition is probably the ramips one
<mangix> DSA ramips is way better
<mangix> no random driver crashes. HWNAT works as well.
<slh> what I'm still partially fighting with, is when to use bridge vlan filtering (do I include wan into this underlying bridge) and all the stuff emerging from that
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<nitroshift> morning guys
<mrkiko> nitroshift: morning!
<nitroshift> mangix, ping
<mangix> nitroshift: pong
<nitroshift> mangix, following yesterday's tests, all ports that have bogus mac address also don't have connectivity (as in device is unreachable when cable is plugged in them)
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<mangix> nitroshift: what's funny is I witnessed the same thing. I think it's an issue with that dualport DSA patch
<nitroshift> also, there is only one mac address printed on the device label
<mangix> I recommend abandoning dualport DSA for now
<nitroshift> i was thinking exactly the same
<nitroshift> let's see it upstreamed in the kernel tree and we'll take it from there
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<rsalvaterra> Morns!
<stintel> o/
<rsalvaterra> stintel: Mate, do you even sleep? :)
<stintel> I do
<stintel> just got a phone call, the monitor I ordered last night after close of shop, will be delivered today \o/
<stintel> finally bit the bullet and replacing 2x24 1920x1200 with 49" 5120x1440
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<rsalvaterra> mangix: Holy hell, over 130 Mb/s faster just going from ar71xx to ath79? Is this the exact same configuration? No way this can be just the switch.
<mangix> rsalvaterra: the comparison is ar71xx and ath79+DSA
<mangix> swconfig is ~70 slower than DSA
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<mangix> the ar71xx build is unmodified 19.07
<rsalvaterra> mangix: Ah, right, I see it now.
<mangix> the DSA build has...special sauce on it
<rsalvaterra> stintel: Those are… atrociously wide. I like watching movies too, but for work, my dream is to have a *square* monitor. :P
<rsalvaterra> That's not special sauce. That's optimising for cache usage. :)
<mangix> I think the upstream driver already has this
<mangix> uhhh no. it's partially there
<rsalvaterra> It begs the question: what's missing from the upstream driver that we can't use it yet?
<rsalvaterra> And why aren't we upstreaming it? :/
<mangix> time i guess
<mangix> I think there was some mdio stuff that needed to be upstreamed
<mangix> I'm assuming this is for builtin switches
<mangix> hmmm
<mangix> I wonder if I should switch to the upstream driver for my testing.
<stintel> rsalvaterra: eh, that monitor is not for movies lol
<mangix> rsalvaterra: just found out all the dts stuff is missing
<rsalvaterra> mangix: Uhh… ____cacheline_aligned isn't defined for MIPS…?!
<mangix> that is...not correct
<mangix> I've tested this with pahole
<rsalvaterra> mangix: I know, but I just searched for it in the kernel. :)
<mangix> anyway, upstream driver is missing a bunch of dts stuff
<mangix> this archer's dts file has rgmii-enabled. present in openwrt driver. missing in upstream one
<rsalvaterra> How about just wholesale replacing the upstream driver with ours? It's not like it's used anywhere else.
<mangix> that's already done. lol.
<rsalvaterra> Yeah, but I mean upstream. :P
<mangix> upstream's driver is used by several devices
<rsalvaterra> Sure, but they're all QCA SoCs, right?
<rsalvaterra> … that's just depressing, considering what we have in target/linux/ath79/dts.
<mangix> yep. there's lots to upstream
<rsalvaterra> There shouldn't be much science regarding the upstreaming of device trees. They just sit there waiting to be used. But they *need* to be used to be upstreamed.
<mangix> i mean do keep in mind openwrt dts files have stuff that is not immediately suitable for upstream
<rsalvaterra> mangix: I know, and missing DSA is the obvious one.
<mangix> until recently also the mtd-mac stuff
<mangix> diff ar9132.dtsi ~/devstuff/openwrt/target/linux/ath79/dts/ar9132.dtsi | wc -l
<mangix> 54
<rsalvaterra> Oh, I'm an idiot, it's GCC magic, not arch-specific. https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.10.66/source/include/linux/cache.h#L40
<mangix> LOL
<rsalvaterra> mangix: Why isn't your ag7xxx field reordering patch merged yet? :)
<rsalvaterra> *ag71xx
<mangix> to openwrt or upstream?
<mangix> sent to both, rejected to both
<rsalvaterra> Oh…
<rsalvaterra> This isn't a rejection. David is right.
<mangix> :). surprised you found it
<mangix> the patch was rejected as submitted. in any case, I can't really test it
<mangix> 0004-phy-add-ath79-usb-phys.patch is strange.
<rsalvaterra> Isn't an iperf3 test enough?
<mangix> rsalvaterra: no. the upstream driver is quite different.
<mangix> testing the openwrt driver and submitting a patch for a different driver is misleading
<rsalvaterra> So many chickens and eggs…!
<rsalvaterra> However, I don't see why it shouldn't be merged in OpenWrt. It's a pure optimisation, easy to measure.
<mangix> at the time, it was not as easy
<mangix> most because ar71xx was a pile of ****
<rsalvaterra> :)
<mangix> what's the difference between 0004-phy-add-ath79-usb-phys.patch and https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/3/24/298 ?
<rsalvaterra> LOL! I just asked that a couple of days ago!
<mangix> sounds like a newer version
<rmilecki> noltari: hey, I've just pushed commit 8fa1b576bbb5 ("linux: update b53 upstream driver")
<rmilecki> noltari: can you check if bmips still works?
<mangix> rsalvaterra: hmm how would I test the USB phy driver?
<rsalvaterra> mangix: You'd need to change the device tree of the target device, I guess.
<mangix> sure but what is there to test?
<rsalvaterra> Uh… if USB is working? :)
<rsalvaterra> Unless blogic_ has other ideas, it's his patch, after all. :)
<noltari> rmilecki: sure, I will test it as soon as I can, but I’m working right now, so I can’t tell you when…
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<justas> Hello. If I have bridge wired and wireless interfaces and CONFIG_BRIDGE_NETFILTER enabled in kernel, does netfilter see traffic that passes through bridge?
<justas> looking at /proc/net/nf_conntrack doesn't seem like it, it's empty
<mangix> rsalvaterra: bleh. sounds like upstream driver needs patching
<rmilecki> noltari: sure, no rush
<rsalvaterra> rmilecki: Something tell me that commit will conflict with my kernel bumps… :P
<rsalvaterra> *tells
<rmilecki> rsalvaterra: some b53 commits have "Fixes:" so they should end up backported
<rsalvaterra> rmilecki: Sure, but we still have to deal with them until they're backported. :) Let me see how it goes here…
<rsalvaterra> mangix: My branching is getting out of hand. For my WDR3600, I have *six* extra branches on top of master. :P
<rsalvaterra> (master -> 5.10-bump -> musl-122 -> ksyms -> stcommon -> ath79-dsa -> st74kc)
<rsalvaterra> rmilecki: Oh, it rebased just fine!
<rmilecki> rsalvaterra: hooray :)
<hauke> rmilecki: are you planning to switch some targets from the swconfig b53 driver to the dsa version?
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<mrkiko> hauke: https://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/#/builders/50/builds/274 returns an empty page to me, except for the title and some html around
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<stintel> but will it be mediatek based!
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<mangix> stintel: ramips probably
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<rsalvaterra> adschm: Long time no see! :)
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<adschm> yes, will be short though since I'm about to leave again
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<rsalvaterra> mangix: As stupid as the question may seem… what is the old swconfig driver for AR83xx switches? I'd like to disable it on my builds.
* rsalvaterra also has to change the C6 v2 device tree to support DSA…
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<Slimey> DSA is what
<rsalvaterra> DSA is the future. :)
<Slimey> obviously
<Slimey> interesting read, have to go over it more slowly
<stintel> wonder if it's coincidence that it differs only 1 char from NSA
* stintel hides
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<Slimey> heh
<Slimey> stintel hows those mpc targets
<stintel> well I'
<stintel> I've one M300 running as main router for >1m already
<stintel> but there are some things I'd like to sort. my initial series to openwrt-devel should contain most if not all info about that
<rsalvaterra> stintel: Are you sure that tinfoil in your hat is thick enough? :)
<stintel> what hat?
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<rsalvaterra> DSA, NSA, conspiracy theories… tinfoil hat for protection. :P
<rsalvaterra> Ok, fresh new build for the WDR3600, now with mangix's ag71xx cache line optimisations.
<stintel> hey I'm vaxxed, should prove enough ;)
<rsalvaterra> stintel: Proves you're not a twat, yes. :)
<stintel> but I like twats!
<rsalvaterra> A gay friend of mine called me a twat, once. I replied that we are what we eat. :)
<stintel> 😂
* stintel keeps the word in his head to himself
<rsalvaterra> (No offense intended or taken on either side, of course. ;))
<olmari> Vax, 5g and NSA.. how bout 5g actually having modes on SA and NSA
<stintel> see what I mean? ;)
<olmari> Stand Alone and its counterpart Not Stand Alone, or so they keep telling us ;D
<stintel> it's what they want us to believe!
<rsalvaterra> The best vax is DEC VAX.
* rsalvaterra runs
<stintel> :D
<rsalvaterra> VAX was actually supported in Linux, at a certain point.
<stintel> there was this video on fb, where some guy supposedly ssh'd into a person after he had his sputnik vaccine
<Habbie> lol
<Habbie> as if your ssh client has GOST
<stintel> I replicated said video about pfizer in ~1h, using the girl who posted the other video her name, and then insinuating something like "body status: horny"
<stintel> man I had a good laugh
<rsalvaterra> (As was the 31-bit IBM S/370, but nobody should want to go there.)
<stintel> I wonder if I can find the original post
<stintel> /home/stijn/projects/vaccinbs
<stintel> found the code I used to replicate the video :P
<olmari> Magnets also stick the spot, but general O'Neil had best... Mmmmagnets
<stintel> someone was showing ssh to foo.sputnik.bar or w/e then running script that gave similar output claiming he was logging into a vaccinated person
<stintel> oh the interwebz are fun
<mangix> rsalvaterra: ar8129 i think. Dunno.
<rsalvaterra> Flashing…
<rsalvaterra> … and it's up! <3
<mangix> So how are those speeds?
<rsalvaterra> mangix: 100 Mb/s.
<mangix> Ah
<rsalvaterra> I don't even have to measure. My laptop only has Fast Ethernet. :P
<mangix> Strange
<Slimey> :(
<rsalvaterra> mangix: There was a time manufacturers too too much of the piss.
<rsalvaterra> *took too much
<mangix> I have a knockoff gigabit usb adapter. It’s 100mbps
<rsalvaterra> I'll have to test with another machine, but right now I need to translate the old network configuration to DSA.
<rsalvaterra> Slimey: What am I even watching…? o_O
<Slimey> lol im not sure but its catchy
<rsalvaterra> Oh, wow…
<rsalvaterra> I just noticed… when there are no enslaved devices in a bridge, the bridge itself isn't created at all, even if specified in /etc/config/network. Is this intended behaviour?
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<root1> Hi all, who can have a look at this simple opkg cherry-pick: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/openwrt/patch/20210907224245.4993-1-champetier.etienne@gmail.com/
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<russell--> rsalvaterra: what branch are you building for wdr3600?
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<rsalvaterra> russell--: st74kc.
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<rmilecki> hauke: i'm fixing b53 support for BCM5301x switches
<rmilecki> hauke: so bcm53xx hopefully one day
<rmilecki> hauke: but there is more work to do first
<rmilecki> ah, crap
<rmilecki> Tag driver for Broadcom legacy switches using in-frame headers (NET_DSA_TAG_BRCM_LEGACY) [N/m/y/?] (NEW)
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<rmilecki> hauke: thanks, fixed
<owrt-snap-builds> Build [#280](https://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/#builders/33/builds/280) of `ipq806x/generic` failed.
<owrt-snap-builds> Build [#277](https://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/#builders/35/builds/277) of `mvebu/cortexa72` failed.
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<aparcar[m]> mangix: more tools to move to meson?
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<mangix> aparcar[m]: which ones?
<mangix> for zstd, I'd wait for the new version
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<aparcar[m]> mangix: ack
<mangix> aparcar[m]: btw I use "find build_dir -name "meson.build"" to find packages convertible to meson
<hauke> mrkiko: for me the link to https://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/#/builders/50/builds/274 shows me the build bot results, I tested it again in firefox and Chromium.
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<aparcar[m]> mangix: yea zstd seems to be the next long hanging fruit
<mangix> zstd 1.5.0's meson build is broken. core meson developer went in and fixed it. waiting for 1.5.1
<aparcar[m]> we'll that's bad
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<russell--> rsalvaterra: do you have a url?
<russell--> mangix: danke!
<mangix> rsalvaterra: for that pahole patch, please mentiion that the first part is already upstream. Also if you could, Add your signed off and send to openwrt-devel
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