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<neggles> rsalvaterra / \x : yeah intel wifi cards are restricted to 2.4GHz/20MHz (maybe 40) in AP mode - they *do* do testing, but the functionality only exists for Miracast/Wi-Fi Direct/etc
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<\x> neggles: i can confirm 40 MHz works
<\x> so yeah maybe after sometime 2.4GHz ax works
<neggles> \x: neat, but i doubt it - 802.11ax just isn't neccessary for wifi direct / miracast
<neggles> and that's all it's officially supported for
<neggles> i'd say they want you to buy the WAV6xx series chips, but it looks like they've sold that whole arm off to maxlinear now, so :p
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<nick[m]1234> jow: can you ack? https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/17148
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<\x> neggles: yeah ill prolly look for another readio sometime, what do you think about the mediatek one, mt7921k?
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<rsalvaterra> neggles: Right, I completely forgot Wi-Fi Direct was a thing. Probably because I don't care about it. :P
<\x> rsalvaterra: tbh atleast for 2.4GHz n, ax200 seems fine, but yeah this radio is really limited
<neggles> rsalvaterra: i don't think i've ever used it for anything other than sending my neighbor's printer strange documents
<neggles> \x: well yeah, it's a client radio, not an AP radio - AFAIK the only AX radio with decent open-source linux support at the moment is the MT7915E
<neggles> only 802.11ax AP radio i mean
<\x> ill keep that in mind
<neggles> the chip can do 2x2 simultaneous dual band, or 4x4 single band
<\x> i wonder if ipq4019's cpu can handle it
<\x> though yeah i dont think mt7915 mini pcie is out there anyway
<neggles> it is!
<\x> oh wow
<\x> >inb4 its much more expensive than my device
<neggles> I found one somewhere.... it was about US$50-60
<\x> I only paid 24$ for my r619ac so yeah
<\x> and I only tried various pcie devices on it, old intel wifi n cards (6300, 6205), ax200 and an nvme
<\x> all worked.
<\x> even an nvme which doesnt really make sense lmao
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<neggles> btw most of the devices on the market with an MT7915 radio use an MT7622 SoC, which is a quad cortex-A53 - the ipq4019 is only cortex-A7 but it won't be *too* far behind
<neggles> the ipq5xxx series are the QCA "cheap wifi 6" SoC though
<\x> yeah, I guess at best maybe an ax1200 radio is maximum for this
<\x> not ax2400 class ones
<PaulFertser> neggles: MT7915E isn't the same as MT7915D, so not all of them are DBDC.
<neggles> PaulFertser: you're right and I was just about to mention that
<\x> maybe in the future mt7921k will be usable, ill grab one
<neggles> near as I can tell the difference between the 7915E and 7915D is that D supports dual-2x2 or single-4x4 and the E is single-4x4 only
<neggles> (but don't quote me on that)
<\x> so for ipq4019 max radio that has been put is 4x4 80 / 2x2 160 1733 AC wave2
<\x> but yeah so far ive seen most wifi 6 platforms have upgraded cpus in there too so im not hopeful to support anything faster than that
<neggles> well if you're running the 7915D in DBDC mode, it's only "AX2000"
<neggles> same as the intel AX200/210
<\x> this card you linked can do dbdc?
<neggles> it's in the title!
<neggles> :P
<PaulFertser> neggles: hm, I had an impression the D version can't support single-4x4 at all.
<\x> oh my bad lmao
<\x> so i can have 2x2 40MHz 2.4GHz 574 + 2x2 80MHz 5GHz 1200 right?
<\x> its a nice card, doesnt even need 5V
<neggles> and they claim "Configurable 4×4/3×3 or 2x2n+2x2ax DBDC"
<neggles> seems like the two-connector version just merges the two chains so you only need two antennas
<neggles> oh, i tell a lie, one is MT7915DAN (two connector, DBDC only) and the other is MT7915AN (supposedly configurable)
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<neggles> \x: should be able to, assuming the manufacturer can be trusted
<\x> I now understood how nice it is to have mini pcie slots on routers man, Ive felt like ive been missing out on all this tinkering fun
<neggles> but you know how *every* cheap 802.11ac access point uses an MT7621 + one of a few combinations of MT7615 / MT7603 / MT7612 / etc?
<\x> yeah i did have mt7621a before, wr1200js and newifi d2
<neggles> I have a sneaking suspicion that the MT7622+MT7915 combo is going to take that position in the AX generation
<\x> if mediatek continues wwhat they did, they likely will
<PaulFertser> neggles: I thought "selectable" there means you can choose between two versions when ordering.
<\x> cheap devices, well supported, nasty cheaply done pcbs though
<\x> atleast for newifi d2 and r3g, having usb3 is suffering
<\x> 2.4 is real bad on them
<neggles> the next "I don't know why I expected anything else to be inside this router" chip :P
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<\x> atleast here in asia, everyone has them, mt7621 + 7530 + 7612 + 7603 combo
<neggles> yup. give it a few years and it'll be MT7622+9715
<\x> theyre really cheap, 15~20$ and you have a nice openwrt-able device
<neggles> PaulFertser: hmm, you may be right, but there's no dropdown box like you might expect
<neggles> i should just buy one of each and find out...
<\x> ipq4019 is kinda gaining traction but only two devices are cheap
<\x> cm520 and r619ac
<proxide> Hey, has anyone here tried building TIP Openwifi firmware? Bought one to AP to test, it uses openwrt21.02 as a base but puts back kernel 4.4.60 for some targets. I tried adding wireguard to it, kmod-wireguard and wireguard-tools but it fails on that package
<PaulFertser> neggles: I think https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/File:MT7905-MT7915-MT7975.jpg and other pics from https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/MediaTek can shed some light.
<\x> neggles: maan, dbdc seems nice, you only need one slot, and I was like looking at this https://i.imgur.com/GnqADME.jpg
<neggles> PaulFertser: that makes sense then, D (AN) is DBDC, A (N) is 4x4 5GHz
<PaulFertser> neggles: specifically, MT7975DN radio is only DBDC https://www.asiarf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/AW7915-NPD-WiFi6-11ax-block-diagram-768x768.jpg
<\x> dbdc supported well on openwrt now?
<neggles> yeah, makes sense
<neggles> ...i'm probably still going to buy one of each just to play with mind you
<\x> oooooh wifi offload
<\x> neggles: ill be interested on your results on the dbdc one
<\x> im not really looking to buy it, but its interesting to cover both spectrum with a single mpcie slot
<\x> its kinda nice
<neggles> that one's a whole 1T1R dual band (not simultaneous) router and USB-ethernet on an oversized miniPCIe
<neggles> so it shows up to whatever you put it in as a USB NIC
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<neggles> of *course* they want US$32 for shipping >:(
<\x> neggles: are you testing on x86
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<neggles> \x: assuming i buy one i'd probably shove it in a few different things, mostly x86 but i think I have an ipq4019 with a miniPCIe
<neggles> oh I could hook it up to a pi CM4
<\x> >I have an ipq4019 with a miniPCIe
<\x> which device it is? or is it a dev board?
<neggles> mikrotik wAP R ac
<neggles> ipq4018 it turns out
<neggles> oh the miniPCIe slot is USB-only
<\x> so no pcie
<\x> its usb only
<neggles> welp
<neggles> i have enough silly half-finished projects and dev boards already tbh :P
<\x> yeah just test on x86 and cm4 i guess
<\x> hell on my ipq4019 i accidentally killed usb soldering those mini pcie, I was cleanign those pads with a wick but i accidentaly knocked off a component and i cand find where it went
<\x> now i dont see that bluetooth usb on ax200 when i plug it :)
<neggles> you probably knocked off a 68 ohm termination resistor
<\x> i just wont repeat the same mistake on my other two units if I ever get into soldering refclock on them
<\x> theyre 0402 and i dont really have a steady hand forr it
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<PaulFertser> \x: probably you can just train for a bit on some scrape board and gain confidence.
<PaulFertser> Basic tweezers or even just a toothpick to push it down should be enough.
<\x> im fine with 0603 up to through hole
<\x> but yeah need more practice with 0402
<\x> its this PaulFertser
<\x> r436 and r444
<\x> i kcocked off r441 idk where it went
<\x> knocked*
<\x> R443 / R447 is for mini pcie 5V, i didnt need to touch that for now i guess
<PaulFertser> \x: interesting, is R441 a pulldown?
<\x> probably
<\x> after losing it, i dont see usb on the pcie slot
<\x> lsusb wont list them
<PaulFertser> \x: I mean you can check the other side if it's GND.
<\x> i should be seeing a bluetooth usb device on it with ax200
<\x> oh, well, i can open it later
<PaulFertser> \x: 15 kOhm pull down is likely what you want there. Have you measure R438?
<\x> i can prolly replace it with a 1/8 watt through hole
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<\x> nope havent measured
<\x> ill see it later maybe
<PaulFertser> \x: my guess would be it's the same
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<PaulFertser> \x: if it's a pull down it's easier to add it with a through-hole on the USB connector itself, yes :)
<\x> its fine with me though like, i dont have a need for 4G or any usb device on that
<\x> im really happy with mini pcie instead
<\x> but yeah maybe sometime that i heat up the iron ill look into it
<\x> should be easy to solder 15k 1/8w through hole on this
<\x> resistor
<\x> theres another image out there
<\x> this one
<\x> oh man, i though ive done a bad job
<\x> lmao, this looks worse but eh
<\x> oh
<\x> i didnt lose it
<\x> then hmmm
<\x> lemme take a pic
<\x> oh now i know why i dont see usb
<\x> i taped that on the adapter when i was using it on a laptop back then
<\x> my bad for causing confusion
<\x> but yeah, lemme see if i see bluetooth now
<\x> sorry for the confusion heh
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<PaulFertser> \x: :)
<\x> PaulFertser: i just replaced the adapter board as i dont wanna remove that tape ;)
<\x> 8087:0029
<\x> thats it
<\x> my bad and sorry for the confusion, i really though i rekt that small 0402 component
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<\x> lol so all the time i was using the wrong adapter
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<stintel> Station tried to associate with unknown SSID ''
<stintel> wut
<stintel> ok so apparently that happens when you set ieee80211w to 2 on a Raspberry Pi Zero W
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<robimarko> Anybody have an idea what to do with BAR memory related issues?
<robimarko> I am trying to prepare ath11k PCI support
<robimarko> But the QCA6391 card that I have wont work on IPQ4019 as well as Armada 7040
<robimarko> I always end up with BAR no space errors
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<PaulFertser> robimarko: the root PCIe bridge really needs to have enough memory range to assign
<robimarko> Yeah, that is why I moved on to 7040
<\x> interesting card
<robimarko> But it looks like it has 15MB instead of 16MB that this thing is requesting
<robimarko> Its weird that Armada 37xx has 128M while 7040 only has 15M
<robimarko> IPQ4019 only has 1M assigned
<\x> robimarko: interested in iw phy dump of that
<\x> QCA6391
<robimarko> Me as well, but cant find a device to get it working on
<robimarko> I mean, I have Octeon TX2 as well
<\x> x86
<\x> but yeah
<PaulFertser> robimarko: probably you can dedicate more memory to the root bridge
<robimarko> I hope so, but the datasheet for 7040 is extremely cryptic about the ranges at all
<\x> they even have a windows driver huh
<robimarko> \x: Its a popular notebook card
<robimarko> Thats the only reason why they have a windows driver
<\x> didnt know about this, I thought m.2 ax wifi cards were only ax200/210 and mt7921k
<robimarko> QCA6390 and QCA6391 rolled out at the end of last year
<robimarko> You can usually find them under the "Killer" brand
<robimarko> Even Intel manufactures them for some reason
<\x> and here i thought killer only uses intel since they got bought
<\x> yeah
<robimarko> The one I have identifes as AX500-DBS
<\x> thanks
<robimarko> And you can buy it under the Killer brand as well
<robimarko> The chinese OEM model name is 8291M-PR
<\x> 15$ a piece on alibaba
<\x> same price as mt7921k
<robimarko> Yeah, they are dirt cheap
<robimarko> Even supposed to have a working AP mode
<\x> cant find it on retail it seems, only alibaba has them, moq 5 pieces
<\x> https://www.acwifi.net/11674.html even this guy had to buy three at a time
<robimarko> Yeah, I got this one as a donation from a Swiss guy who had to buy 3 of them
<\x> ath11k it seems, hiw is ath11k nowadays? is it closer to ath9k or is it worse than ath10k?
<\x> how*
<robimarko> Worse than ath10k for sure
<robimarko> Even more reliance on blobs
<\x> I guess I really have to wait for some mediatek stuff
<robimarko> Now they have moved regulatory info to the BDF actually
<PaulFertser> robimarko: have you tried to just making the pcie controller window size bigger?
<robimarko> I am looking at it now
<robimarko> Checking ATF for what windows does it have
<robimarko> For whatever reason the PCIe2 (one that I am using) has 3 windows
<robimarko> But the trick is that its not continuos
<robimarko> So you cant just extend it as 0xF9000000 is part of other IP
<PaulFertser> robimarko: looks like it's hardcoded to CP11X_PCIEx_MEM_SIZE which is 0xf00000, heh.
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<robimarko> Yeah
<robimarko> And they are wasting a 1M of space as ATF claims that it should be 0x1000000 instead
<robimarko> And you cant extend it to 0x1000000
<robimarko> It conflicts with RAM
<robimarko> armada8k-pcie f2640000.pcie: resource collision: [mem 0x01000000-0x01ffffff] conflicts with System RAM [mem 0x00000000-0x03ffffff]
<PaulFertser> That's an interesting message, looks like it would conflict either way :)
<robimarko> Yeah
<PaulFertser> "* As the CP11X_PCIEx_MEM_SIZE macro is also subject to change with newer SoCs, we put it in the SoC files as well." sounds like it's indeed a hardware limitation, hm
<robimarko> Yeah, looks like so
<robimarko> Its just weird that Armada 3k has 128M of MEM space while 7040 only 15M per controller
<PaulFertser> Yes, sounds like a silly limitation :/
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<robimarko> PaulFertser: It looks like IPQ4019 has a 256M of PCI space according to QSDK
<robimarko> And copy/pasting it worked
<robimarko> Not it assings the required memory but fails on MSI as none of these SoC-s have 32 MSI-s
<robimarko> But there is a patch set to only use one
<robimarko> I am personally skeptical that it has 256 of PCI MEM space
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<robimarko> \x: Finally got the damn thing working on IPQ4019
<robimarko> Here is the iw phy print with Croatian regulatory
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<slh> robimarko: looks nice, 5 GHz even seems to have reasonable regdb values, 2.4 GHz is missing ch 12/13 though, strange
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<robimarko> slh: Its actually got much better regdb then AHB radios
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<robimarko> Those are completely out of date
<robimarko> And yeah, for ETSI 12 and 13 are disabled everywhere
<slh> yeah, at least the 5 GHz data seems to be correct, missing 'just' ch 12/13 shouldn't ve that much of a big deal
<robimarko> I still havent found whether its a bug in the driver or the FW
<robimarko> Cause even according to QCA-s regulaory PDF those should be enabled
<robimarko> But 5GHz is surprisingly much better than the AHB radios, there the 5GHz rules are usually crap
<robimarko> Since they had a brilliant idea to ship the regulatory info as part of the BDF
<robimarko> So its outdated in 99% of the time
<slh> grr
<robimarko> And in the 1% its not even embedded so ath11k will just print nice warnings and set you to world regulatory
<slh> which effectively means no AP mode in the 5 Ghz band at all
<robimarko> Yeah
<robimarko> I am not sure about 2.4GHz but it will set NO-IR all over the place
<robimarko> Currently, I am looking to manually update the regulatory info for the couple devices in the WIP IPQ807x
<robimarko> But its not really a viable long term solution
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<mangix> what is this NO-IR?
<PaulFertser> No Initiated Radiation
<PaulFertser> Means it is not supposed to start transmission on this channel.
<olmari> I honestly know noth9ing, but I d orealise plenty... fuck this shit, if I honestly may say so.. If I may not, then tough luck
<olmari> or something
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