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<pq> emersion, I'm neutral on that idea.
<emersion> why neutral?
<emersion> not useful to you?
<emersion> or something else?
<pq> I dunno if it would be useful for me
<pq> I don't remember ever written that kind of code, validtion has always been intertwined with actual processing, for better or worse.
<emersion> most often than not, validation is not implemented at all
<emersion> and the uint32_t is just cast to the enum type
<emersion> more*
<emersion> that "enum xdg_positioner_anchor anchor" is actually an uint32_t and could be outside of the enum
<pq> I don't think I've ever written any xdg-shell code, nor reviewed much.
<pq> true that
<pq> maybe it's useful then?
<emersion> ok, maybe you just don't implement protocols with enums much
<pq> I don't
<mceier> client does not need to check enum validity? if so, I would add "server-side" before "validators"
<pq> it's annoying to use protocol-defined enums in APIs, and really inconvenient from extensions for public headers
<emersion> it is
<emersion> shipping scanned headers ala libwayland would help
<pq> mceier, clients cannot really do anything much with the check result. "Oops, I'm going to send a bad request" or "Oops, the server sent me something bad".
<emersion> in wlroots we use generated enums and require compositors to use wayland-scanner
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<emersion> but it's not great
<pq> well, wayland-scanner generated headers do not link without also the .c file, so that would be awkward.
<emersion> hm, right, so would need to ship a .so as well…
<mceier> pq: I think clients can also disconnect or log a message when they receive something bad/unexpected, just like servers.
<emersion> also wouldn't help for compositor-private protocols
<pq> mceier, but the disconnect only hurts the app itself.
<pq> logging would be fine
<pq> OTOH, if code uses an independent enum internally, then you get enum mapping functions like in my example, where the bad value is easy to catch, but the function cannot be generated by wayland-scanner.
<emersion> you'd still be able to use the generated function
<emersion> (1) make sure the internal enum matches the protocol (2) cast
<pq> So yeah, I'm neutral on that MR. I can't tell if adding that stuff in generated headers is worth it in general.
<pq> ...if you assume that the internal enum is actually using the same values?
<emersion> yes
<pq> hmm, how would that work?
<emersion> i'm not sure i understand the question
<pq> the validation function only says "valid" or "not", but it does not tell me if I didn't mix up two valid values.
<emersion> the enum you have in your API is modeled right after the protocol's
<emersion> it's a copy-paste
<pq> that leads to double-definition errors, doesn't it?
<emersion> oh well, i guess we can always have a wlroots scanner
<emersion> enum weston_output_capture_source is the same as the protocol
<pq> emersion, I'm not NAKing it! I'm saying I'm neutral!
<emersion> it even has "Copy of weston_capture_v1.source enum from protocol" as a comment
<pq> emersion, yes, but using different names.
<emersion> so the values are the same, and you don't intend to add new enum entries to the protocol without a version bump
<pq> correct
<pq> what if I have a bug that maps WESTON_CAPTURE_V1_SOURCE_WRITEBACK to WESTON_OUTPUT_CAPTURE_SOURCE_BLENDING?
<emersion> so, instead of the function with the switch, you could use the generated _validate() helper, and cast the proto enum to enum weston_output_capture_source
<pq> the validate function cannot detect that
<emersion> a mismatch between your enum weston_output_capture_source values and the protocol's then?
<pq> mm, yes, that didn't occur to me
<pq> I just need to add tests to ensure the values in the two enums really do match
<emersion> that's the catch, yes
<pq> Ok, it's another way. I don't see it as better or worse, just different.
<emersion> ack
<pq> I'm still neutral. Not naking, not acking.
<wlb> weston/main: Paul Kocialkowski * screenshooter: Add SHM buffer destroy listener to avoid invalid memcpy https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/0afd3428dc89 libweston/screenshooter.c
<wlb> weston Merge request !1016 merged \o/ (screenshooter: Add SHM buffer destroy listener to avoid invalid memcpy https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1016)
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<wlb> wayland-protocols/main: Simon Ser * build: alphabetically sort list of staging protocols https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/commit/03ae934d6583 meson.build
<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !165 merged \o/ (build: alphabetically sort list of staging protocols https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/165)
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<pq> emersion, what if that validation function actually did the cast to the enum C type? And maybe also sent a protocol error automatically? And take the wl_resource instead of version as argument?
<emersion> that sounds like a lot of arguments
<pq> maybe... but it would also replace that much of caller code
<emersion> bool XXX_validate(struct wl_resource *resource, enum XXX *out, uint32_t error);
<emersion> not that bad
<emersion> ah, missing uint32_t value
<emersion> not sure the enum out-param really buys much
<pq> semantic sugar
<pq> I guess I'd just like more of a function that actually does the thing than tells me if I can do the thing. Even if it's just a simple cast.
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<wlb> weston Issue #637 closed \o/ ([regression] NV12 dmabuf renders all red https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/637)
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