robclark changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
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<driver1998>
it looks like debian testing is still at mesa 23.3.5, I guess I should try sid for a newer mesa to be sure
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<exeat>
No leaks of a new fanless thinkpad yet :-/
<\[m]>
t14s!! I was right lol
<\[m]>
looks like same trackpad ☹️
<\[m]>
how do you know there's fans, because of the grills you assume?
<exeat>
Yep
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<\[m]>
yay element desktop is out of nightly-only seems (it failed to start on last update)
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<rfs613>
is there a currently recommended boot image for X13s? Seems I managed to break mine by doing 'apt upgrade' (on debian 11)... doesn't seem to get past EFI shim, no kernel output visible.
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<krzk>
rfs613: Ubuntu 24.04 comes with x13s support, so maybe that one would work for you?
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<rfs613>
krzk: thanks... after some fiddling, it seems i just need arm64.nopauth on the cmdline
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<HdkR>
yay broken pac
<maz>
broken firmware, rather... :-/
* travmurav[m]
still wonders if it's hyp or tz that breaks it
<travmurav[m]>
I think I asked but I don't remember if someone confirmed it still being broken when booting at el2
<maz>
if it is still broken while booting at EL2, then it is EL3 that fscked it up.
<travmurav[m]>
right, thanks
<travmurav[m]>
ah "if"
* travmurav[m]
failed to read
<strongtz[m]>
<strongtz[m]> "1000003644.jpg" <- I tried this EL2 config just now, it just goes to crashdump after ExitBS lol
<travmurav[m]>
inb4 it includes slbounce but there is no tcblaunch.exe
<strongtz[m]>
ah you mean the qualcomm FW includes slbounce?
<travmurav[m]>
I have no idea but it was a joke that the (2) would just run slbounce code to elevate via SL
<strongtz[m]>
yeah I might try slbounce on it later lol
<travmurav[m]>
sltest should be easy, I'd appreciate to know :D
<travmurav[m]>
last time I've looked at exelite hyp, it included the same securelaunch code
<travmurav[m]>
(shoehorned into gunyah that is, which I found funny but completely expected)
<travmurav[m]>
but I have an impression they've shoehorned a lot of old hyp stuff into gunyah so as expected the thing is "open core" kind of a software I guess
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<jglathe_x13s>
I tried it to put sc8280xp-lenovo-thinkpad-x13s.dtb into /boot/efi, removed the devicetree line from the grub entry, and it boots fine.
<strongtz[m]>
travmurav: it got stuck unfortunately
<travmurav[m]>
no green pixels top left?
<travmurav[m]>
sad
<strongtz[m]>
nope
<travmurav[m]>
well, not unexpected I guess, something new might have changed still
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<strongtz[m]>
if I select the EL2 config in the firmware menu, it crashes after displaying the same thing
<travmurav[m]>
because sltest calls ebs
<travmurav[m]>
so I guess same exact crash as with linux
<travmurav[m]>
uh
<travmurav[m]>
what is this tcblaunch exe from?
<strongtz[m]>
windows build 26085
<travmurav[m]>
can you try the one that was uploaded here before?
<travmurav[m]>
ah wait
<travmurav[m]>
no
<travmurav[m]>
nvm
<travmurav[m]>
well I guess still could but that's probably not it
<travmurav[m]>
I'm a bit sleepy and I didn't see something but it shouldn't be there anyway
<strongtz[m]>
well I have to sleep now indeed, it's late here
<travmurav[m]>
strongtz: but I assume you had 0=windows when testing?
<travmurav[m]>
maybe uefi doesn't do the pas magic to register acpi with hyp when (1)=linux is picked
<travmurav[m]>
but there probably many more things to go wrong there sadly
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<\[m]>
nice, the samsung galaxy book arrived, doesn t power up and screen is cracked ☹️
<HdkR>
"lightly used."
<\[m]>
it has a little sticker (no pwr) and seems to have been in a repair flow, it has some repair number sticker and seemed to be destined for "storage"
<\[m]>
lol
<\[m]>
what did I buy, DOA?
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<\[m]>
eeeh let's dump extra money in 150 euro laptop mm
<\[m]>
e-waste 11
<\[m]>
* e-waste 101
<jglathe_volterra>
I will need a good excuse for the X1337 laptop that's kinda manifesting in my future
<jglathe_volterra>
"the X13s is so small" will not cut it
<\[m]>
you mean t1437s 😄
<jglathe_volterra>
yeah
<jglathe_volterra>
only 2 grand for new shiny
<\[m]>
you know the price?
<\[m]>
I'd buy it to kind of vote with money or some stupid idea 😉
<jglathe_volterra>
new shiny costs 2 grand, sort of
<abby>
2k is a typical price
<\[m]>
but I'm highly traumatised by computer fan noise with my work laptop
<jglathe_volterra>
Oh I can feel, Tinnitus. Every constant whiny noise brings out the beast
<\[m]>
i thought that's inverse, you need some noise to not hear it
<jglathe_volterra>
sorta lucky with my HP ProBook 455 G8, sorta silent-ish most of the time
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<jglathe_volterra>
variable, stress-induced or whatever. anyway, have to live with it, silence is best when I need to do stuff
<jglathe_volterra>
and I love those silent boxes. The Turing Pi 2 cluster is most of the time silent, the X13s is, the Volterra boxes are. bliss.
<jglathe_volterra>
I hear it all the time, q is if its noticeable and distracts me.
<jglathe_volterra>
the unbelievably noisy T420s of 2012 and the even louder U745 (Fujitsu) of 2015 cured me from buying laptops for a while. Being traumatized by it hits the nail on the head
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