01:15 <chadmed> jonaburg[m]: https://github.com/chadmed/asahi-audio

01:15 <chadmed> go to #asahi if you wanna discuss though this is the gpu channel

12:53 <yuni> Not sure how many of you are tuned into Lina's stream right now, but it's great! :)

13:03 <Dcow[m]> it's 46 people

13:03 <Dcow[m]> 10% of this chat population 😀

13:05 <jonaburg[m]> hahah its one of the most exciting spectator parts of this project

13:10 <arrowhead10[m]> yuni: can you drop the link here?

13:11 <opticron> https://youtu.be/8RSU1fnQPTg

13:13 <arrowhead10[m]> The text seems a bit small lol but good enough

13:17 <opticron> looks fine here, but I'm streaming at 1080p on a 4k 65" TV

13:23 <arrowhead10[m]> Oh maybe the 65inch monitor does it for you

13:23 <arrowhead10[m]> Im on my 16inch m1

14:14 <rowang077[m]> Is it possible to implement openCL based of the work Alyssa has been doing? Or is that completely seperate?

14:37 <daniels> rowang077[m]: eventually, yeah :)

18:57 <lina> Just pushed all the work from today! yuni, phire: enjoy

18:59 <lina> I moved the infodump here: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/HW:AGX

19:50 <Sobek[m]> Btw, watching the GPU reverse engineering talk by lina from the other day. The way she speaks (a bit fast) makes it a bit hard to follow for whomever it may concern, slow down a bit :)

20:02 <AdryzzOLEDEdition[m]> you can slow it down and there are also autogenerated subtitles btw

20:03 <Sobek[m]> Yeah now the autogen subtitles are available, but they could do with some manual copy editing ^^'

20:41 <Sobek[m]> Random thought, can OpenGL be implemented using Metal as a backend ? (And thus use the stables APIs on macOS)

20:49 <jannau> Sobek[m]: macos still has OpenGL although deprecated. it would also not help with linux/*bsd driver

20:53 <Sobek[m]> Basically for Linux drivers we want mesa talking with the linux kernel API.

20:53 <Sobek[m]> Rn we have a mesa talking to the unstable macos kernel API developed by Alys.sa, which could allow for an opensource maintained up to date OpenGL implem, if it weren't likely to break on macOS updates. Impelmenting the OpenGL stuff in term of Metal (like MoltenVK does with Vulkan) would however be maintainable.

20:53 <Sobek[m]> Obviosly this would not be useful for Linux, granted

20:55 <VinDuv> IIRC the MoltenVK developers also maintain an OpenGL-to-Metal driver

20:55 <jannau> I don't think anyone here has the goal to write an macos opengl user space drive

20:56 <VinDuv> https://moltengl.com

20:56 <jannau> mesa as zink as opengl to vulkan driver as well

21:27 <Sobek[m]> :D

23:19 <yuni> lina: So proud of you <3

23:21 <yuni> Sobek[m]: AFAIK, the OpenGL driver Apple ships on the M1 is mostly translating to Metal inside.

23:21 <yuni> Although it does advertise some hardware features that Metal does not (like wide lines), not sure if there are extra special private Metal APIs for Apple :p

23:29 <yuni> I believe some people are shipping Zink-on-MoltenVK, as jannau said

23:29 <yuni> But yeah, our goal is supporting (OpenGL and Vulkan) on Linux.

23:30 <yuni> The macOS support in Mesa is strictly for developers.

23:30 <yuni> And will mostly be obsoleted as Lina makes more progress ^_^