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<alyssa>
I don't know if it's possible to emit that sequence with the blob
<alyssa>
so IDK if they have a workaround
<alyssa>
or they can just statically guarantee it doesn't happen
<alyssa>
so IDK if they have a workaround
<alyssa>
if I insert an intervening nop, the problem isn't visible
<alyssa>
unclear if that's actually flushing anything (acting as a barrier), or it's just masking the timing-dependent bug
<alyssa>
this is.. really iffy.
<phire>
there hasn't been any static scheduling anywhere else?
<alyssa>
nope.
<alyssa>
it's all hw so far
<alyssa>
and this workaround is only because of a missing optimization!
<phire>
I guess it's possible there is a hardware bug? the nop is a workaround?
<alyssa>
HW bug, maybe
<alyssa>
Subtle uarch behaviour that would be a single footnote in a spec and the compiler just has to deal with, more likely ;-p
<alyssa>
Without the specs it's hard to know for sure, of course
<phire>
do we know how fast the shader's instruction decoder is? Does it go beyond 1 instruction per cycle?
<alyssa>
Unclear
<phire>
with that variable instruction width, I'd hope not
<alyssa>
We do expect there's some ILP handled in HW, even for ALU
* alyssa
switched to preamble shaders
<alyssa>
since I am not in a headspace to r/e uarch details
<phire>
lol, I'm in such a bad headspace that I'm failing at fighting macos installer pkgs
<karolherbst>
they all have compiled plists by now, don't they? (used macos when there weren't binary plists)
<karolherbst>
or binary nibs for that matter... the glorious times where you could mod apples apps by just messing with their interface builder files
<phire>
I think there is just a way of passing arguments to the installer pkg to make it install a "full" installer, instead of just the online one that it does by default
<phire>
should be reasonably east to find once I get rid of this headache
<phire>
*easy
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<nigger[m]>
dilate trannies
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<Tramtrist>
messaged marcan .. we may need ops in more timezones for this if its going to continue :/
<karolherbst>
:(
<alyssa>
I'm not sure "dilate" means what they think it does.
<karolherbst>
I am sure that's some weird code for idiots
<karolherbst>
ehh.. from?
<karolherbst>
used by?
<karolherbst>
yeah.. "used by" I think is it
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<alyssa>
I'm also a bit confused about channel moes.
<alyssa>
modes
<alyssa>
Oh, I see.
<alyssa>
I set the channel to +M -- "client may speak only when registered and identified to NickServ"
<alyssa>
That should not affect any legitimate traffic to the development channels, IMHO.
<alyssa>
I guess we'll pilot that here and when marcan wakes up I'll talk to him about doing it for the other channels
<alyssa>
Also +c for good measure because lol colour
<Tramtrist>
The issue is theyre coming from matrix?
<alyssa>
I mean, no, the issue is that they're coming from kiwifarms.
<Tramtrist>
Are all matrix users automatically verified or does that have to be regstered here too?
<Tramtrist>
oh haah ya
<Tramtrist>
there are.. many issues
<karolherbst>
alyssa: +1
<karolherbst>
Tramtrist: no, matrix users have to identify additonally
<karolherbst>
this is actually a huge issue
<karolherbst>
matrix users tend to forget that and then whey they write stuff, IRC users won't see it
<Tramtrist>
Ah really
<Tramtrist>
Well that sounds like a good stopgap
<karolherbst>
it's annoying though
<karolherbst>
worse even... mods only being on IRC don't see the crap on matrix then
<Tramtrist>
ah .. i see
<Tramtrist>
I batted around hosting a matrix instance to control the ban list but.. probably not the right person to do that having never done it before
<Tramtrist>
We discussed the matrix flexibility as far as that goes yesterday in #asahi a bit
<Tramtrist>
There isnt a lot of functionality unless you control the instance
<alyssa>
Right...
<alyssa>
So either we cut off Matrix or we move to our own Matrix instance and cut off IRC
<alyssa>
So much for bridges with The One True Protocol
<Tramtrist>
Marcan made comment about IRC being canonical
<Tramtrist>
Conversation stopped around then
<karolherbst>
just trash IRC
<karolherbst>
that's what I always say
<karolherbst>
IRC doesn't allow emojis in nicknames -> end of discussion
<Tramtrist>
😞
<karolherbst>
sorry, but I want to be called 🐧🦀karolherbst🦀🐧
<Tramtrist>
need to get back to カニ本家
<karolherbst>
see, can't do that in IRC either
<Tramtrist>
been too long
<karolherbst>
or can you?
<Tramtrist>
Glancing at the /names in #asahi I think majority is IRC
<karolherbst>
we just need something new, written in Rust, which is better than all the alternatives :P