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<charnam>
just joined to say i added a swapfile and it seems to have entirely solved my RAM issue, although that'll probably need a little more testing at least
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<charnam>
oh, nope, maybe not. just zoomed in on a webpage and the entire thing crashed
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<reverser>
Hey, it's me again. Last time I asked how to compile the asahi-linux kernel for the fedora remix without gpu drivers. How would I compile the drivers if I wanted GPU support ?
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<cy8aer>
There is a dependency between mesa and the kernel. So be sure to have an actual kernel running, like asahi-6.11.4-1 (the actual one)
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<martin123456>
This might be a bit of a stretch, but I thought this was the best place to ask that I know about: does anyone here know of a Free Software VNC client that works on Mac? There is the Screens app, but there is a charge to use it.
<delsol>
you don't need VNC software
<delsol>
go to finder (click on your desktop), use the "GO" menu at the top. Connect to Server. -> VNC://123.123.123.123:5900
<delsol>
(you're IP and port number there)
<martin123456>
delsol, thank you kindly, I'll try it.
<delsol>
There are a few really oddball VNC servers I have had problems with it connecting to in the past.....
<delsol>
chicken-of-the-VNC is another option that has worked with one of those weird oddball servers... so its another option
<martin123456>
delsol, thanks again. I don't have the Mac immediately on hand to try it. In case the default software doesn't work, how do you recommend installing chicken-of-the-VNC? Sorry, I am something of a Mac software neophyte.
<delsol>
go to the download page for it, hit download, then go to your downloads folder, and depending on if it downloaded the app directly, or if it downloaded the installer, proceed....
<delsol>
if it downloaded the actual app file, drag and drop it to your applications folder or wherever you want to launch it from.
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<martin123456>
delsol, thanks, I am seeing results for a sourceforge page and for a newer GitHub page. The GitHub page has no releases/downloads, so perhaps I will need to build from source
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<delsol>
martin123456: well... i haven't had to download it in 10+ years since the built in VNC works so well....
<martin123456>
delsol, thanks, I will do more investigating. The server is WayVNC on x86_64 Debian, so I am not sure what the trouble would be
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<fl0_id>
martin123456 have you tried realvnc? it is commercial but at least the client allowed me to start it without logging in or so
<fl0_id>
just not sure if you can also connect without a license, but don't have a server to try
<delsol>
fl0_id: you can use realvnc, its just extra bullshit to deal with.
<delsol>
AND the one weird oddball VNC server that didn't like the built in VNC didn't like realvnc either....
<fl0_id>
delsol yes, but probably less BS than compiling chicken of the vnc themselve, assuming it even works for newer macos (last commit was for xcode 11)
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<delsol>
fl0_id: valid. But honestly, what are the odds they run into some weird VNC server that doesn't work with the default Screensharing app?
<martin123456>
fl0_id, thanks, my friend said he tried the default client, and it didn't work with Debian WayVNC server, and then he paid for and tried the Screens app, and that worked for him with that server
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<martin123456>
So I think realvnc wouldn't be necessary, because there is already an unfree solution that works
<delsol>
weird... doesn't work with debian WayVNC? did he get the port right?
* delsol
wonders what authentication stuff is set on the WayVNC server.
<nicolas17>
last I tried the built-in VNC *server*, it was horrible
<nicolas17>
I think it only supported uncompressed raw encoding, and Apple's proprietary encoding that requires Apple Remote Desktop client, so connecting from Linux was slow af -_-
<delsol>
nicolas17: right, but we're talking about apple's built in VNC client
<nicolas17>
sorry for the offtopic rant then :p
* nicolas17
crawls back under his rock
<martin123456>
nicolas17, it was an interesting interjection, no worries haha
<delsol>
nicolas17: naw, its valid. The Apple VNC server DOES do its own wizbang encoding shit and doesn't have a decent fallback option that I've seen.... so yep, you either get super-fast with the right VNC app, or super-slow with everything else.
<nicolas17>
>$80 client app with mostly negative reviews
<martin123456>
delsol, I couldn't say for sure, but this friend is a skilled technologist, albeit relatively inexperienced with Mac, so I imagine he did get the port right
<delsol>
I wonder if he's connecting to a VNC server that doesn't have a configured password.....
<delsol>
because last I knew, there was no way to connect to one that had no security at all.... either has to ask for vnc password, or username+password.
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<nicolas17>
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4.0K Aug 29 2018 media
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<fl0_id>
delsol no idea, I don't use vnc much. but sure if the default app works even better. was just curious if there were alternatives that were at least free-ish
<fl0_id>
(as in beer)
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