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<curiousfish>
Hi, I was hoping to contribute to the asahi linux project, I haven't really worked on a project like this before but I am hoping to learn. The asahi linux website says you guys need people to help writing documentation and that would be a good way to learn
<nicolas17>
one question I have seen more than once here is "can I dual-boot Asahi and macOS?"
<curiousfish>
thats a bit silly
<nicolas17>
how easy is it to find the answer to that from the website?
<curiousfish>
im not sure?
<curiousfish>
but its pretty obvious
<curiousfish>
its an operating system
<curiousfish>
why would you not be able to partition and dual boot
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<nicolas17>
is it in the FAQ? if so, is the FAQ easy to find from the homepage? that's the kind of thing that needs better documentation for end users :)
<nicolas17>
(the answer is: the installer already configures dual-booting, you would need to go out of your way to erase macOS, and it's not recommended to do so)
<curiousfish>
ah i see what you're getting at
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<curiousfish>
Im looking through the documentation on github, do you have any suggestions on where to start?
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<curiousfish>
I added that dual boot question to the FAQ explicitly
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<j`ey>
I read lina said that muvm only supports X11 currently, does that mean you need xwayland on the host, or is xwayland/something running in the guest?
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<chaos_princess>
if you are using sommelier, it launches xwayland inside the vm, once you are using native x11 passthrough (coming soontm), you will need xwayland on the host
<j`ey>
will somelier support go away?
<chaos_princess>
yes, the idea is to replace it, sommelier has too many issues, and is only usable for full screen apps
<j`ey>
oh
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<chadmed>
normal steam kinda-sorta works but any contextual windows (xyz user is now online, context menus, etc) are completely and utterly broken and it has no DE integration its an absolute mess
<chadmed>
sommelier also steals focus rather greedily
<j`ey>
does wine only run on X11/xwayland?
<chadmed>
nah theres a wayland-native backend now
<chadmed>
but muvm will need to learn how to wayland before that works
<j`ey>
presumably muvm will still need something like sommelier for wayland
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<chadmed>
something like it, but not rubbish
<chadmed>
maybe even just straight waypipe?
<j`ey>
I forgot about waypipe
<j`ey>
I'm still hopeful I can get it working with pure QEMU, so I can re-use some of the stuff I have
<chaos_princess>
wine's wayland backend is also not great rn, because some features that win32 api exposes straight up do not exist in wayland (yet)
<chaos_princess>
like absolute window position control
<j`ey>
that would be an issue with xwayland anyway?
<chaos_princess>
No, xwayland has a private api to the compositor to allow it to do x11 stuff
<j`ey>
hm
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<leio>
can we do fun stuff with FEX like "natively" compiling x86_64 stuff with it instead of a cross-toolchain with all that entails?
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