#asahi on 2024-07-16 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-03-01 05:50 marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi

00:02 <alih> PaulFertser: as an example I just took an old laptop I have (with Arch+Plasma) and my M1 Mac. I created a new profile for Firefox on both (mkdir temp; firefox -profile temp/ -new-instance) and the numbers I'm reporting here are from top. On my m1 mac the topmost firefox process takes 717.0m RES 224.3 SHR. On my old amd64 laptop it takes 456.8m RES and 272.4M is shared.

00:03 <alih> maybe the problem is just firefox? Because the kwin_wayland and plasmashell processes are otherwise a lot more comparable on the two laptops

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06:35 <dottedmag> RES in isolation is meaningless, it just shows how much memory is currently mapped to the physical one. Based on the activity you might have most or nearly none of the firefox's binary or loaded libraries mapped or discarded.

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06:37 <dottedmag> To get a measure of real memory usage you'll need to dig deeper: classify memory pages as belonging to r/o code/data, to private process data, and then do the controlled tests with exact same configuration to elicit similar behaviours of both browsers, so that 1) memory allocation is similar; 2) the tests are not skewed by profile contents and installed add-ons and whatnot.

06:41 <LarstiQ> I read that as completely empty profiles both?

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06:41 <dottedmag> ah, right, then "same configuration" is already done

06:43 <dottedmag> point about RES still stands. Looking at /proc/pid/smaps and summarising data there is probably the easiest starting point

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07:56 <leio> I like to use ps_mem for this, as it does the /proc/pid/smaps scouring for you and makes a good summary that spreads out shared memory usages to all processes sharing it, not consider unmapped memory, etc

08:06 <LarstiQ> leio: cheers, I didn't know ps_mem

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