#dri-devel on 2022-06-16 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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07:11 <daniels> anholt: hmm, this looks like a _slightly_ more polished ministat ... https://github.com/sharkdp/hyperfine#hyperfine

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14:23 <anholt> daniels: ooh, that looks like it would do most of what I do with compare-perf.

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14:27 <gawin> anholt: after MR 16895 tests which could be passing on hardware are skipped?

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14:30 <gawin> (tests with loops which nir is not able to unroll)

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15:13 <jekstrand> Wow... There's real discussion in phoronix forums about my dma-buf explicit sync blog post.

15:13 <jekstrand> It's even kinda technical.

15:14 <jekstrand> I can't track what people are saying well enough to know if any of them have a clue how it all works but there at least seem to be some people who know GL on there.

15:16 <pq> if oiaohm is one of them, he does that: he knows enough to make false assuming statements that look credible in his walls of text

15:19 <pq> I don't think it's on purpose, just eager to make bad assumptions and explain those to everyone

15:21 <Sachiel> confidently incorrect

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16:20 <pinchartl> jekstrand: can you point me to the blog post ?

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16:21 <jekstrand> pq: Yup, It was oiaohm

16:21 <alyssa> jekstrand: I'm really enjoying nir_block_worklist for writing dataflow passes

16:22 <jekstrand> pinchartl: https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/06/09/bridging-the-synchronization-gap-on-linux/

16:22 <alyssa> So glad I stole that into common

16:23 <jekstrand> pq: There were some pretty fantastic statements in there like how "most kernel drivers are explicit sync internally" So you mean there are some that arent? How exactly does that work? I'd love to know something about this magic hardware you've found which is able to do implicit sync....

16:23 <pinchartl> thanks

16:24 <jekstrand> I need to re-post the last two to my personal blog so they end up on planet.fd.o

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17:09 <MrCooper> jekstrand: I share pq's impression, and most of the rest there just seem totally clueless :/

17:10 <MrCooper> multiple of them just keep repeating the "implicit sync bad, explicit sync good" mantra, no understanding of the nuances

17:11 <alyssa> soon: explicit sync good, implicit sync better

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17:15 <lynxeye> Always fun to watch the phoronix peanut gallery. My personal favorite is the one where I stole the amdgpu scheduler for etnaviv. ;)

17:16 <alyssa> lynxeye: oh, that was you? thank you! ;-)

17:17 <jenatali> Yeah, they really hate me/us there, it's always entertaining to see what negative things they have to say

17:18 <jenatali> Though I will say in the last couple of years I've noticed a small number of people who actually get it instead of just repeating EEE :P

17:20 <ccr> sync good, no sync bad

17:21 <alyssa> jekstrand: you EEE bad, I EEE good

17:21 <alyssa> jenatali:

17:21 <jekstrand> alyssa: :P

17:21 <jenatali> Heh

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17:33 <alyssa> cmarcelo: If I ask a really dumb gtest question will you pretend somebody else asked and answer "them"? ;-)

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17:42 <jenatali> Is there a problem with the mali devices? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/24172639

17:43 <alyssa> there's always a problem with mali devices, you'll have to be more specific?

17:43 <jenatali> :P Well one job spent an hour just trying to start running

17:43 <alyssa> oh, that's lima, not our farm

17:43 <alyssa> enunes: ^^

17:43 <jenatali> Ah my bad

17:44 <alyssa> jenatali: a-b me to .disable the jobs

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17:44 <alyssa> looks like there's a LIMA_FARM switch

17:44 <jenatali> Cool, I'll see if it was a one-off, if not I'll push that

17:44 <alyssa> jenatali: I mean the piglits there are also stuck

17:45 <jenatali> Ah

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18:31 <jenatali> MR pushed and I'm cancelling pipelines for Marge if they have lima jobs in them

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18:32 <jenatali> At least that was the plan, I'm going to lunch instead of babysitting Marge :P

18:33 <ccr> perhaps Marge should've been named Maggie .. :P

18:34 <alyssa> Maggie Batty

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19:32 <agd5f> has anyone run into any issues where the generic drm fbdev helpers don't work with hibernation?

19:32 <agd5f> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216119

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19:38 <idr> ccr: Sometimes seems more like Patty and Selma.

19:38 <dj-death> bnieuwenhuizen: do you track all the sparse mappings in radv?

19:41 <ccr> :)

19:41 <ccr> idr, constantly smoking?

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20:10 <dcbaker> kusma: how do you feel about adding a link to the Amber branch to the front page of the mesa website?

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20:45 <kusma> <dcbaker> "kusma: how do you feel about..." <- I think that's a great idea!

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20:53 <alyssa> I like the positivity :3

21:03 <dcbaker> MR opened

21:13 <alyssa> dcbaker: you sure?

21:13 <alyssa> oh its a different repo ok

21:13 <alyssa> TIL.

21:14 <dcbaker> yup, we no longer have the dated, copy-n-pasted hand written html :)

21:14 <alyssa> nice :}

21:16 <alyssa> i guess i should review rusticl sometime.

21:19 * dcbaker wonders if he'll ever get the mile-long chain of "fix C so I can fix B so I can implement A"? in meson done to add crate support :/

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21:32 <dcbaker> jekstrand, pendingchaos: I've got the nir/deref work staged for 22.1, but the very first patch regresses basically everything: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/commit/ee6630d2069856d1bbb280aa6f2c1f7cbabded5f/pipelines?ref=staging%2F22.1, is there some groundwork I'm obviously missing?

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21:42 <pendingchaos> dcbaker: the first patch can break things without "nir/deref: Handle RESTRICT for SSBO deref bindings"

21:42 <dcbaker> ah, so I need to sort out the mid series breakage then :D

21:43 <dcbaker> (some missing patch I think)

21:43 <jekstrand> Sort-of. You need the whole MR

21:43 <dcbaker> thanks!

21:43 <jekstrand> RESTRICT was papering over things. It was never correct but it was papering over other issues.

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22:08 <bnieuwenhuizen> dj-death: yeah, but Samuel just put something in to not do it if not needed with the global BO list: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/17085

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22:19 <dcbaker> ah, just needed the unused variables patch to remove a function not in the 22.1 branch :)

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