<CounterPillow>
Nothing says "open standard" like a big copyright notice at the beginning disallowing reproduction and utilisation
<karolherbst>
pinchartl: yeah, so not part of any C core standard
<ccr>
CounterPillow, even more "open" are the standards which you can't get a copy of without paying :P
<mripard>
I believe those are called industry standards
<pinchartl>
the best ones are the ones you have to pay for to only then realize that nobody implements them
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<CounterPillow>
Since I do live in Switzerland it'd be devilishly affordable for me to send ISO a snail mail letter to ask for written permission to save a copy of this document to my local drive, and then also send them subsequent letters each day asking them for permission to run my daily backups, as ISO intended.
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<karolherbst>
research publishing is scam, and everybody knows it :P
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<CounterPillow>
You're technically allowed free viewing of any ISO standard through your country's local standards body, but at least here in Switzerland that means travelling to one specific viewing room in the country where you get to look at it with your eyes only and get to only make handwritten notes ;)
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<MrCooper>
where's that viewing room located, out of curiosity?
<CounterPillow>
For me it's in Winterthur if I remember correctly, which is quite close to me
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<tomeu>
downloading from my desktop is fine, so I wonder if it isn't due to some CDN, or a proxy wherever that runner is, ...
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<tomeu>
woah, so downloading from firefox works, but when running external/fetch_sources.py here, I get 403 instead...
<tomeu>
hmm, it alternates between 415 and 403
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<tomeu>
now a captcha popped up... "zlib.net is protected by Imunify360"
<daniels>
ugh ...
<daniels>
looks like we'll need a new source then
<tomeu>
will look a bit more at why it is only failing via http.requests
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<tomeu>
daniels: looks like downloading it previously with wget and placing it in /VK-GL-CTS/external/zlib/packages/ should cause the script to skip the download
<daniels>
yeah strange, curl works to download as well
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<tomeu>
daniels: will be testing that workaround
<tomeu>
btw, I suspect that HTTP Error 415: Unsupported Media Type is due to the captcha page being delivered instead of the tarball
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<MrCooper>
mripard: FWIW, some KMS drivers allow enabling the CRTC but no plane, so "An active CRTC is guaranteed to have an active plane" isn't true
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<javierm>
MrCooper: an active plane is one that's visible? Because I only see the struct drm_crtc_state to have an active field, not struct drm_plane_state
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<tomeu>
daniels: actually, curl is also broken in the runner, as it downloads the captcha page as well
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<tomeu>
maybe we should just accept that zlib.net is not a reliable place from where to download stuff
<MrCooper>
javierm: not 100% on the details, but IIRC: a plane is enabled if its CRTC_ID property has a non-0 value, otherwise it's not
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<daniels>
tomeu: yeah, maybe using the Debian archive is a better idea
<MrCooper>
javierm: anyway, some IGT tests try to disable all planes while leaving the CRTC active, amdgpu has to explicitly reject that
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<javierm>
MrCooper: yes, I think internally that's the "visible" field in the plane state and that's why tzimmermann suggested the drm_for_each_primary_visible_plane()
<javierm>
MrCooper: and you are correct I think that an active CRTC can have no active (visible) planes
<CounterPillow>
Somebody should probably tell zlib.net about this
<MrCooper>
javierm mripard: looking at amdgpu code, the FB_ID property needs to be non-0 as well
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<tomeu>
CounterPillow: will drop them an email
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<karolherbst>
jenatali: I'm thinking of bumping the LLVM req to 14 or even 15 for clc... using anything below 14 is broken anyway
<karolherbst>
and 15 gives us fast compile times, though I can see why that's not as important
<karolherbst>
mhh.. llvm-15 was released sep 2022, llvm-14 in march 2022
<karolherbst>
atm we depend on 10+ which was released in March 2020
<karolherbst>
radeonsi needs 15+ anyway
<karolherbst>
(intel_clc 13, clover 11 and apparently gallium still supports 5+?)
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<alyssa>
karolherbst: please bump to llvm-23+ for the spir-v backend bug fixes
<karolherbst>
23?
<alyssa>
:p
<karolherbst>
:P
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<jenatali>
karolherbst: ack, we're using 15 atm so that sounds fine
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<karolherbst>
jenatali: I still wonder about 14 vs 15... 14+ allows us to get rid of 2 ifs.. 15+ 5 additional ones
<karolherbst>
maybe I do it in two commits and the ones wanting to build with llvm-14 can just revert it
<jenatali>
Up to you, doesn't impact me
<karolherbst>
okay
<karolherbst>
CI seems to be on 15 as well
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<mripard>
MrCooper: I didn't know that, thanks :)
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<mripard>
MrCooper: out of curiosity, which driver do you have in mind?
<javierm>
mripard: he mentioned amdgpu
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<MrCooper>
actually I suspect most drivers allow this (some of which possibly unintentionally :), with a few exceptions
<MrCooper>
such as amdgpu
<karolherbst>
done... I got to remove more code than I thought :D
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<sima>
MrCooper, part of the reasons for the simple kms helpers was that way too many drivers failed to reject the config if the primary plane was disabled :-)
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<sima>
it's a very common bug :-/
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<jenatali>
karolherbst: not pushing r-b tags? Are we dropping that req for common code?
<karolherbst>
uhh.. good question
<jenatali>
IMO we should so I don't care, but I suspect it was unintentional:)
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<karolherbst>
yeah.. not really thinking about it too much honestly. I just mostly do it if I need to push anyway
<karolherbst>
I also still need to merge 25568 but I think I've waited long enough for others to complain about forcing fPIC :D
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<javierm>
sima: I failed to parse your comment, do you mean that drivers that allow to have an active CRTC with its primary plane disabled are buggy or that drivers that don't allow that are?
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<sima>
javierm, they're only buggy if they allow it but the hw/driver doesn't actually support it
<sima>
so neither
<javierm>
sima: got it
<javierm>
and that explains why I failed to parse your comment. It makes sense to me now :)
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