05:59 <manuels2> Hi

05:59 <manuels2> How can I get fork the specs

06:00 <manuels2> I want to send a pr to the desktop entry spec.

06:02 <manuels2> I talked a lot with the author of the xdg-terminal-execute author, terminal authors, I discussed on the mailing list, commented on the proposals, and tried to send PRs to terminals.

06:03 <manuels2> The xte proposal is illformed and the terminal intent is going to take ages.

06:04 <manuels2> I simply want to provide the users of my app a reliable way to run _their_ terminal.

06:04 <manuels2> I give in to the idea of pushing such a proposal.

06:06 <manuels2> But at least I realy would like to add a key to the desktop entry spec that carves the defacto standard to run a command in a terminal into stone.

06:07 <manuels2> Defacto because _all_ terminals that make sense out of it have a command execution parameter.

06:08 <manuels2> I dont like the idea of a default of `-e` as specified in the x-t-e proposal. But there is no other way of reliably running such a command in the terminal if not exposed by the app itself.

06:10 <manuels2> so even if folks refuse to establish x-t-e and want to wait decades for app intents apps like albertlauncher can benefit a standard mechanism to run commands in terminals

06:14 <manuels2> The only way to do so is to add the ExecArg (or another name) with the semantic either fully implying its a terminal with command execution interface or a conditional semantic based on `Categories` containing `TerminalEmulator` (as some suggested).

06:15 <manuels2> I am fine with either of them.

06:17 <manuels2> I am also fine with both proposals (x-t-e and terminal intent), and although in every discussion i had so far they were seen as competitors, I think we should have them both. Implementations like launchers should then take them both into account, because they are similar but not congruent in feature sets and coverage. But thats another story and as

06:17 <manuels2> said I give in.

06:19 <manuels2> There is simply no progress. Folks reject x-t-e because the terminal intent draft exist, yet terminal author reject to implement such an interface. Such a shithow.

06:21 <manuels2> So I simply want to get the command line interface standardized, without these alledgedly competing standards. Such that I can let my users choose a terminal and call it a day.

06:23 <manuels2> tl;dr

06:24 <manuels2> How can I get the privilege to fork the specs here https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs to send a PR?

06:26 <vyivel> this could've been a single message

06:27 <vyivel> open a user verification request issue on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues i suppose

21:45 <ngcortes> ////////////

21:56 <kode54> whee

21:56 <kode54> Migadu said normal mailing lists use a mess of IP addresses for their mail bombing

21:56 <kode54> but they've whitelisted fd.o

22:10 <kode54> one of the things waiting to mail me was an 86 patch series from amd-gfx

22:11 <bl4ckb0ne> yeah i got the mail too, 184 mails stuck in my inbox

22:11 <kode54> I had over 400 today