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KotCzarny >
offtopic, but maybe someone has a clue, rm gets 'permission denied' when removing file in /sys, but mc deletes it successfully
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KotCzarny >
it seems it somehow can remove the directory that contains the file, but rm -rf insists on removing contents first
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apritzel >
KotCzarny: a file in sysfs cannot be removed, really, because it's created on the fly by the kernel, so what are you trying to do?
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KotCzarny >
apritzel, apparently it can, at least mc does it just fine
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apritzel >
but it doesn't make any sense ...
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KotCzarny >
it does, dt overlay gets removed then
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KotCzarny >
if mc deleted it
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KotCzarny >
and allows loading new one in place of it with new params
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apritzel >
ah, yeah, some directories have special semantics
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KotCzarny >
s/loading/creating/
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apritzel >
but then it's not really sysfs, I think, but something mounted in there?
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KotCzarny >
configfs
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apritzel >
yeah, this one
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KotCzarny >
still, i'm wondering what mc does that rm doesnt
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apritzel >
maybe it ignores the EPERM, and goes on with rmdir?
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KotCzarny >
how could i emulate it in console?
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KotCzarny >
apart from hacking rm / writing own tool
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apritzel >
just rmdir that directory?
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KotCzarny >
lets see..
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KotCzarny >
it worked
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apritzel >
those virtual filesystems are a bit special sometimes, they implement the fs operations explicitly
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KotCzarny >
thank you :)
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KotCzarny >
funny that rmdir worked where rm -rf was failing
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jernej >
KotCzarny: maybe without -r?
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apritzel >
because configfs implements this slightly differently, and documents the special semantic
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jernej >
anyway, it's special case
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KotCzarny >
rm: cannot remove ...: Is a directory
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KotCzarny >
so -r is required
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KotCzarny >
but at least rmdir works so i can continue the fun
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KotCzarny >
also, i recommend of_configfs for anyone hacking the dt overlays
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jernej >
KotCzarny: are you using new syntax for overlays? It makes things much easier.
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KotCzarny >
tbh i'm overlays noob
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KotCzarny >
so i just grabbed some examples off the net and hacked until it worked
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jernej >
are there a fragment nodes in you overlays?
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jernej >
this is old approach
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jernej >
dtc still makes fragment node and all that, but automaticaly
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KotCzarny >
still needs touchscreen part but i needed display mostly
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jernej >
I never worked with that syntax, so I can't help
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jernej >
although I see similarities
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gamiee >
jernej: are there any special args required for dtc for this new approach? Also, why is there compatible part?
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KotCzarny >
compatible is a device selector
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KotCzarny >
so it gets used if it matches
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jernej >
I don't think anything special is needed
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gamiee >
That's amazing, there is so many gems hidden with the kernel, I love this, thanks :)
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jernej >
rarely you are the first one that something bothers you around kernel :)
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jernej >
another such great tool is b4, which can be used for easily downloading/applying patch series posted on MLs
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jernej >
it's primarly maintainers tool, but also useful for others
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jernej >
maybe wiki needs general tips & tricks page :)
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gamiee >
Oh, also good to know! Also, the tool which can parse defconfig entries from dts is really handy. And yeah, having those tips on some page on sunxi-wiki would be gem, even for other platforms.
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gamiee >
(tbqh, sunxi wiki was best source for me to learn all the Linux and SoC stuff)
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gamiee >
When I was in high school, my activity on boring classes were reading sunxi wiki :D
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gamiee >
KotCzarny, if I remember, are you maintainer of h3droid?
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KotCzarny >
gamiee, ya, although it's quite stale now
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gamiee >
KotCzarny well, h3 is old, so it's being less used, and h3droid is in good state
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gamiee >
(the fact H3 is less being less used scares me a lot, since I use it in product and I don't have any alternative)
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KotCzarny >
all depends on your needs
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KotCzarny >
i'm currently hacking this h5 based board as a webcam viewer + future openvpn server
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KotCzarny >
unfortunatelly h3 doesnt have aes accel
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gamiee >
Wait, H3 doesn't have crypto acceleration???? :o
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KotCzarny >
nothing to talk about
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KotCzarny >
a53 core in h5 leaves h3 in dust
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KotCzarny >
~10x faster
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gamiee >
Ah, yeah that's true
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gamiee >
Down side of H5 is that it's not available
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KotCzarny >
a64 seems good enough replacement
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gamiee >
There is no Allwinner H5 sbc being sold at the moment
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gamiee >
And A64, I can't find any board in good form factor and price. So far H3 was best, just hope it will stay available
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KotCzarny >
buy some spares maybe
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megi >
but I liked PC2 more
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gamiee >
lol good to know,thanks megi
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KotCzarny >
opi+2e is almost 100usd
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KotCzarny >
opi3 is half that price
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megi >
all the orange boards I ever bought are at least 2x the price these days...
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megi >
lts != opi 3
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KotCzarny >
it says opi3 lts in the name
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megi >
lts is a bit crippled
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KotCzarny >
at which part?
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megi >
wifi chip, connectors, lack of barrel connector for power,
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KotCzarny >
you can power via gpio, no?
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KotCzarny >
and its gigabit eth with 2gb lpddr3
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KotCzarny >
which isnt half bad
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KotCzarny >
and 8gb emmc
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KotCzarny >
pretty nice all around board
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megi >
power on gpio is for powering stuff connected to the gpio
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KotCzarny >
afair it's often connected directly to dc-in
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KotCzarny >
darn, analog audio is not mainlined or just table not updated?
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megi >
it's part of ac200
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megi >
so nos support
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KotCzarny >
and nothing in foreeseable future?
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megi >
all around great board with no wifi, no audio, worse ports :)
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KotCzarny >
as if there were decent wifis on any of allwinner board ;)
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megi >
probably poorer cooling, since it looks smaller
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KotCzarny >
but i2s is mainlined
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KotCzarny >
so good enough
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KotCzarny >
i2s isnt mainlined on h5 :)
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megi >
is linux-sunxi website defunct?
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apritzel >
megi: explicitly use https://
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megi >
hmm, now it works
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megi >
I see, thanks
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apritzel >
and yeah, when you see the 521 page, and correct it, you have to do it twice, for some reason
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megi >
I can't find the Opi 3 LTS schematics anywhere
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apritzel >
they are not in the Wiki, if you are looking ther
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apritzel >
but I found them "out there" the other day ...
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apritzel >
on the OPi website, under "Service & Download"
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apritzel >
the under "User manual", obviously ;-)
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megi >
no I2S on the gpio
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megi >
unless you can make do with just MCLK and DOUT
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apritzel >
does anyone have an idea how different the audio part in the AC200 is from the other SoCs' integrated parts?
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apritzel >
at least many register names seem to be similar ...
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megi >
it looked quite different IIRC
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megi >
from AC100 for example
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smaeul >
megi: please consider sending a mailmap patch to Linux, so get_maintainer.pl stops returning an email address that bounces
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