<[Pokey]>
I am hoping it is a reproducible issue which would point of course at firmware and not hardware trouble. Maybe driver issue? Slightly outside my knowledge area
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<robimarko>
\x: Sorted out the old TZ/QSEE FW without having to update it
<robimarko>
As somebody just bricked theirs today by flashing unsigned FW to a Netgear Orbi which has secure boot enabled
<[Pokey]>
Tapper: I have not, no, though I would have thought if any change to the driver was made that would resolve an issue, it would have been noted
<[Pokey]>
Unless you know more than me here of course
<[Pokey]>
I could give it a go, but its definitely a "not tonight" thing
<Tapper>
If you do try out a master build just remember that luci is not built in. To install luci ssh and opkg update then opkg install luci-ssl
<[Pokey]>
I think I have got a formula now for assembling .config for as close to official release package set as possible now, so should be all good
<Tapper>
Give it a try out in the morning. I think that the master build mite have a newer Kernel than 22.03
<[Pokey]>
It certainly does yes
<Tapper>
O are you making your builds?
<[Pokey]>
For another device, yes, not this one
<Tapper>
I thorght that you were just grabbing your bins from the downloads from openwrt.com
<[Pokey]>
For this device that is indeed what I have done
<Tapper>
OK both should be OK. but defo give master a try. When you get chance
<slh>
mac80211/ mt76 aren't that far apart between 22.03.x and master, yet (mac80211 being pretty much the same, an update to v6.0 is imminent though - mt76 is a slightly newer in master)
<[Pokey]>
The only reason I have been building for my other device is because it is not officially supported in 22.03.0. \x very kindly spent hours with me and showed me the ropes, helping me add support for my other device
* Tapper
Tapper nods
<[Pokey]>
slh: I do not know how you can so easily see that, but I assume that means there have been changes to the driver which could help in master?
<[Pokey]>
could being the key word
<slh>
one thing to be sure, test it ;)
<Tapper>
[Pokey] lol You got it.
<slh>
master is the only way to get fixes in anyways, so it will -by definition- have them first
<[Pokey]>
Tapper: I'm not a complete noob to the overarching concepts, just to OpenWRT and actual developer parts of it :P
<Tapper>
[Pokey] BTW thanks for adding a new device to OpnWrt.
<[Pokey]>
Tapper: Thank \x, they pulled the heavy weight! I just tagged along to push a little bit
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<Tapper>
You are doing better than me mate. Its people wanting to get there hands dirty that makes OpenWrt what it is.
<[Pokey]>
Hopefully I will do my own from scratch at some point, we'll see
<Tapper>
That's is how it all starts.
<[Pokey]>
Quick Q, if I sysupgrade a custom build, I can sysupgrade back down to stable and as long as I do not retain config, it won't kick up too much fuss will it?
<Tapper>
The only way is down now. lol Soon your house will be full of routers and strange boxes.
<[Pokey]>
Tapper: It already does, just not of the router variety!
<Tapper>
[Pokey] sysupgrade will be fine. You can even keep configs from 22.03 to master.
<[Pokey]>
I have very mildly dabbled my toes into embedded before, and the learning I have achieved from OpenWRT will make me do so again at some point soon
<[Pokey]>
Tapper: I meant the other way :P
<slh>
just a word of caution, don't buy rtl838x based switches, they're addictive ;) (really, they're working well with OpenWrt and the options are endless, but you'll likely end up 'collecting' them)
<Tapper>
hahah
<[Pokey]>
slh: Thanks for the purchasing recommendation but I seem to be stuck on MT762X series devices at the moment :P
* slh
just received an Allnet ALL-SG8202M today...
<slh>
err ALL-SG8208M
<slh>
...fifth realtek switch
<Tapper>
5 switches god dam!
<slh>
kind of an accident(al bid)
* [Pokey]
waves around his 4 ProCurve 100mbit switches and a couple unmanaged 1Gbit ones
<slh>
a bit towards the upper end of my maximum bid, but still cheap
<[Pokey]>
Not as exciting but I hoard those too
<slh>
once you have played with managed switches, it's hard to get away from them
<[Pokey]>
Managed switches are the canine's testicles
<Tapper>
O yeah!
<[Pokey]>
I find it amusing the only difference between a router and a managed switch is a more powerful SoC generally, correct?
<slh>
and yes, I do have an old managed 24 port 100 MBit/s switch as well, which was nice - but given it's 100 MBit/s, it just isn't usable for anything serious (which means it remains/ remained powered off)
<slh>
depends a bit, the power of a managed switch lies within its switch fabric - not the SOC
<[Pokey]>
If we're talking about a crappy little desk managed switch, let's say
<Tapper>
I think that most routers should come with 8 ports now anyway.
<Tapper>
4 is so 2006
<Tapper>
lol
<[Pokey]>
Tapper: +1
<slh>
traditionally, the SOC is just a low-powered thing, merely enough to provide a webinterface and to bootstrap the switch fabric. this SOC doesn't even need to have full access to the switch itself (e.g. giving it a 10 MBit/s port to the switch fabric would be plenty, for the purpose)
<Tapper>
We just get stuck with 4 ports because of cost.
<slh>
the realtek ones are a bit different, as SOC and switch are reasonably powerful
<slh>
doesn't mean they'd make a fast router, but at least it's pretty much one device
<slh>
e.g. don't expect an rtl83xx switch with OpenWrt to route more than ~15 MBit/s, but it damned well can switch 52 ports at 1 GBit/s each, with a parallel 52 MBit/s switch fabric
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<slh>
with all the bells and whistles of an L2 smart-managed switch
<Tapper>
I don't know mutch about switches like that tbh
<Tapper>
Sound hella cool tho
<Tapper>
The switch I have is a dumb 8 port one from tp-link
<slh>
just look around for a 16-24 port switch, with patience and persistence you can often find them really cheap
<slh>
up to 24 ports they're usually fanless
<Tapper>
I will look around on ebay for one. I need to run some new cables in my house any, but It can wate for the new year.
<slh>
8 ports are a bit of a waste for a managed switch (it's great to retain options and free ports to add to, imho)
<Tapper>
Yeah. Need to moov the switch from the kids room and the hue hub.
<slh>
and yes, I do have two 8 port ones (received the second today) - still useful, kind of as a swiss army knife for quick setups (but for my normal backbone, I use 24 port ones)
<Tapper>
Going to move them all to my rume and just run 1 AP insted of 2. Switch, hue hub and AP all in same place
<Tapper>
Then run cables to the bedrooms
<Tapper>
16 ports will be more than I need.
<Tapper>
Nice to have a cupple spair.
<Tapper>
slh I will give you a shout when I go huntting for one.
<slh>
yeah, exactly - I get nervous if I have less than ~8 free ports left
<slh>
Tapper: the easy choice is the ZyXEL gs1900 series (easy, because there you don't have to bother about different hardware revisions, they're commonly available new and used, and rather cheap)
<Tapper>
OK thanks
<Tapper>
Will keep my eyes open
<slh>
for the D-Link DGS-1210 series, you need to be very careful about the hardware revision (revF/ revG only, others are unsupported Marvell or Broadcom)
<[Pokey]>
Sorry, just wanted to repeat the Q, is it safe for me to sysupgrade a master build down to 22.03.0?