20:45 <john-cabaj[m]> Would be cool if Ubuntu Asahi could be getting kernel SRU updates during this nice lull. With Noble tracking for a 6.8 release, it makes incorporation of the Asahi patchset trickier as they're still 6.6-based. Would it be worthwhile to attempt a 6.8 Ubuntu Asahi edge kernel that more closely tracks Ubuntu development, or is the taste for that just not there?

20:49 <eslerm[m]> I'd be interested

20:49 <eslerm[m]> perhaps in a devel repo ?

20:49 <eslerm[m]> participating in the testing phase of Noble would be great

20:53 <john-cabaj[m]> The only tricky bit is that there's a growing delta between 6.6 Asahi and 6.8

20:53 <john-cabaj[m]> So we (basically I) would be making the decisions on how those ports would proceed

20:54 <john-cabaj[m]> And those decisions might differ from the direction Asahi devs eventually decide to go

21:02 <tobhe[m]> well until upstream catches up at least right

21:02 <tobhe[m]> normally fedora is moving fast too

21:16 <john-cabaj[m]> Right, well it's all trivial once upstream catches up.

21:16 <john-cabaj[m]> It just so happens that Fedora is slower than Ubuntu at the moment

21:17 <tobhe[m]> I guess you can at least start looking into it

21:17 <tobhe[m]> do you think it would be a lot of effort to have one more 6.6 kernel to ship the recent mesa update though?

21:18 <tobhe[m]> I guess it wouldn't be too different from the current one

21:19 <john-cabaj[m]> Not sure what you mean. 6.6 Ubuntu Asahi would still be the certified release, and I'd put those out as long as upstream is basing off 6.6.

21:19 <john-cabaj[m]> A 6.8 Ubuntu Asahi would just be an attempt to base Asahi commits on a 6.8 kernel, and pull in Ubuntu stuff more consistently.

21:25 <tobhe[m]> yes, sounds good

21:26 <tobhe[m]> <tobhe[m]> "https://hachyderm.io/@AsahiLinux..."; <- i mean we should see if we can build the current asahi kernel to get this ^

21:27 <tobhe[m]> because there was a uapi bump

21:29 <john-cabaj[m]> Does Fedora not have this?

21:29 <john-cabaj[m]> Ah, they had updated 3 weeks ago

21:30 <john-cabaj[m]> I can push that change out

21:36 <tobhe[m]> we have time since we also don't have a mesa build yet

21:36 <tobhe[m]> but i'll start working on that soon

21:36 <tobhe[m]> other thing i need to do is add ubuntu patches to the debian packages that made it into noble

23:02 <eslerm[m]> <tobhe[m]> "other thing i need to do is..." <- which packages?

23:03 <tobhe[m]> at the very least m1n1 and asahi scripts

23:05 <eslerm[m]> I wonder how things become tracked on https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html?showProposed=false&showMergeNeeded=true&showLongBinaries=true

23:06 <tobhe[m]> i think those are simply packages with ubuntu version

23:06 <tobhe[m]> s//\*/, s//\*/

23:06 <tobhe[m]> because that means they ship with ubuntu specific patches and can't be auto-merged