00:09 <tobhe[m]> that should be in debian or at least in the queue

00:33 <tobhe[m]> aha https://salsa.debian.org/rust-team/debcargo-conf/-/merge_requests/564

00:33 <tobhe[m]> not yet

00:34 <tobhe[m]> some dependencies still seem to be missing

00:34 <tobhe[m]> but we can do that differently in Ubuntu

00:34 <tobhe[m]> because we accept vendoring

01:00 <john-cabaj[m]> As an aside, are there any good Element mobile apps? Webpage is tedious on mobile.

01:02 <tobhe[m]> element itself is available as a mobile app

01:02 <tobhe[m]> there is element x which is the beta version of an element rewrite

01:02 <tobhe[m]> not sure how usable that is

01:03 <tobhe[m]> fluffychat also seems ok

08:34 <popey> fluffychat is good on mobile, but I find it a bit painful on desktop. I don't believe there are any really decent matrix clients tbh

08:40 <popey> Just tried https://app.cinny.in/ which is quite clean

14:52 <patricus> can I use this ubuntu asahi remix with screenreader, and have installed the mate desktop after the install?

14:54 <tobhe[m]> I haven't tried that but I think it might work. mate is xorg i think so it might not work as well as wayland because upstream focuses on wayland support

14:55 <tobhe[m]> in reality xorg worked fine so far whenever I tried

15:02 <patricus> wayland is getting on my way, pun intended, so I can't use that, it even refuses to work at all most of the time with most apps which would work fine under xorg. but I would want the installer to support xorg and mate so I can install that.

17:47 <tobhe_> Ubuntu Mate support might be something we offer at some point but we need to sync with the mate team first

17:48 <tobhe_> ideally someone from their community would help us test and fix things