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<daniels>
alyssa: oh but it does
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<pq>
swick, because the simplest implementation of presentation-time on KMS provides the semantics, and we have no other kinds of implementations that wouldn't do that AFAIK. So yeah, I'm torn between practise and spec, once again.
<pq>
swick, MrCooper, when you say "wait for buffer to become ready", do you mean finish rendering or finish displaying?
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<emersion>
pq, finish rendering
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<swick>
pq: okay as long as we don't have a scheduling protocol I can get behind that
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<swick>
more stupid questions: what exactly do we have the explicit sync protocol for? with the ioctls to export implicit sync to a syncfile and the other way around the protocol provides no benefits at all. even if the compositor uses explicit sync for GPU work it can then just stuff them into the dmabuf again at the end.
<swick>
if we get this real user space fencing thingy without kernel involvement we would need an explicit sync protocol again but right now it seems really useless
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