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<Plagman>
how does one run naked compositors over ssh these days? my usual trick of scraping XDG_ variables from a real VT and setting them over ssh doesn't seem to make logind happy anymore
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<jadahl>
Plagman: to debug via ssh and what not? I tend to open a screen on the tty, and attach to it from ssh
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<kennylevinsen>
Plagman: seatd will happily let you do that for compositors that support it. logind should work with XDG_SESSION_ID hijacked from a VT session, but I find that to be a finicky stunt to pull.
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<emersion>
Plagman: in a pure logind setup, you can run e.g. `screen` on the physical VT, and attach to it via SSH
<emersion>
but yeah, these days i just `sudo seatd &` and then things just work
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<pq>
I didn't know about the 'screen' trick. Would it not make the compositor see not-a-local-real-tty through and refuse to start because it can't control VT through it?
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<jadahl>
pq: the screen trick has worked for me with weston and mutter/gnome-shell since the beginning of time
<daniels>
TIL
<emersion>
pq, i only tried with logind, not the direct session
<pq>
ooh, right, logind does all the VT stuff indeed
<daniels>
I usually do direct-as-root for the devices where I can't be bothered typing on whatever rubbish £5 keyboard is plugged into them, or weston --wait-for-debugger in the local case
<pq>
mvlad, the above 'screen' trick might be worth documenting in Weston, even through we have seatd now.
<jadahl>
the screen trick doesn't require root. the seatd trick requires root
<pq>
yeah, the screen trick only works if you actually have a keyboard and a console.