#wayland on 2022-12-10 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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04:57 <DemiMarie> emersion: if libwayland-client included an API for creating sealed memfds on Linux and FreeBSD, and which fell back to decent alternatives on OSs that didn’t have them, would you use them in your clients?

05:29 <daniels> DemiMarie: tbh i feel like that effort would be better spent on a generic, Wayland-independent, library

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06:34 <DemiMarie> daniels: possibly, but who wants another dependency for something that is less code less than one of libwayland’s source files? Plus libwayland already has all the feature detection machinery, as the server code needs it.

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07:09 <emersion> DemiMarie: this would be wasted time. no matter how many clients you convert, there will always be outdated clients or proprietary clients or clients which don't want to use it, so compositors can never drop the SIGBUS handler

07:10 <emersion> the spec can never force v1 wl_shm clients to use that anyways

07:36 <DemiMarie> emersion: I was going to say that v2 could require it, then realized it would break the use-case that motivated me to make v2 in the first place. Main advantage of this is library would be to handle platform quirks, such as POSIX shared memory on Linux being broken in chroots().

07:39 <DemiMarie> Memfds are the fastest and cleanest option on platforms that support them, and my understanding is that you were not willing to write a bunch of platform-specific code. I am, so long as (1) it does not take too much of my time and (2) it is in libwayland so that your clients can use it.

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08:02 <emersion> i don't see the upside

08:03 <emersion> just more code for no benefit

08:03 <kennylevinsen> libwayland is not a generic utility library. It does too much, not too little

08:04 <emersion> speed is not a concern at all, clients only have a handful of shm buffers

08:05 <emersion> chroot breaks a lot of things if you don't properly mount filesystems in it

08:07 <emersion> i don't really buy the speed argument btw, not until i see benchmarks

08:07 <emersion> (and even then it wouldn't matter - by a handful i really mean 1)

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18:11 <wlb> wayland Issue #340 opened by linuxpng (linuxpng) Screen flicker when using Firefox + Wayland backend on some vp9 videos https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/issues/340

18:24 <wlb> wayland Issue #340 closed \o/ (Screen flicker when using Firefox + Wayland backend on some vp9 videos https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/issues/340)

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