#wayland on 2022-12-08 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:03 <filmil> found in https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2016-July/029887.html: "Yes you would just commit an empty string. I will update documentation."

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07:28 <yetoo> Can I get pointers to run an application without a desktop environment as simple as doing it in x like here: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-run-x-applications-without-a-desktop-or-a-wm I see cage compositor and it looks like the only way, but just want to see other input

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07:53 <wlb> weston Issue #703 opened by Yen Liang Chen (tommyyl) Should weston call power off when a hotplug connector being unplugged ? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/703

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08:24 <MrCooper> yetoo: it depends on the Wayland compositor used; e.g. current versions of mutter support "mutter <mutter options> -- <command> <command arguments>" which automatically runs the provided command and shuts down when the command exits

08:52 <pq> Max1, sure - I'm not the best person to discuss that.

08:54 <pq> yshui`, both content and role, plus role-specific conditions if any must be fulfilled to map a surface. Was that really not written in wl_surface or role-specific interface docs?

08:54 <pq> yshui`, a surface cannot enter any output if it's not mapped, because if it's not mapped, it has no position on the screens/desktop.

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08:59 <wlb> wayland-protocols Issue #120 opened by Max Ihlenfeldt (mihlenfeldt) xdg_shell: clarify touch focus during interactive move / resize https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/120

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09:47 <wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * libweston: move headless_backend::renderer_type to weston_renderer::type https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/51c888299121 libweston/ backend-headless/headless.c libweston-internal.h noop-renderer.c pixman-renderer.c renderer-gl/gl-renderer.c

09:47 <wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * backend-drm: drop use_pixman from drm_backend https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/a9c1b41f3fa0 libweston/backend-drm/ drm-internal.h drm-virtual.c drm.c kms.c

09:47 <wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * backend-wayland: drop use_pixman from wayland_backend https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/e752c8737f8d libweston/backend-wayland/wayland.c

09:47 <wlb> weston/main: Philipp Zabel * backend-x11: drop use_pixman from x11_backend https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/06eb28ba6282 libweston/backend-x11/x11.c

09:47 <wlb> weston Merge request !1064 merged \o/ (Store renderer type in struct weston_renderer to make it visible for potential secondary backends https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1064)

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10:12 <yshui`> pq: thanks! maybe it was written somewhere but i missed it?

10:13 <pq> maybe, or maybe not, but it's probably written in just one place

10:16 <yshui`> so the client needs to know what output it's on to know the scale of the output, and it can't know the output until it commits the first buffer. doesn't this mean there will be one suboptimal frame being displayed?

10:17 <pq> yes, I think that was a fundamental flaw in that design

10:17 <pq> now they are adding preferred scale/transform events to wl_surface directly, so a compositor can send those earlier.

10:19 <pq> it's also a good question if the compositor itself knows where it's going to map the surface, so it likely ties in with the role-specific interfaces

10:19 <pq> on practise, that is

10:21 <yshui`> like the fractional scale interface? or MR !220?

10:22 <pq> !220 I think

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11:46 <wlb> weston Merge request !1069 opened by Philipp Zabel (pH5) Support loading backends via shortened backend name https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1069

11:52 <wlb> weston Merge request !1070 opened by Philipp Zabel (pH5) Some VNC cleanups https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1070

11:54 <wlb> weston Merge request !1071 opened by Philipp Zabel (pH5) Move tracked damage with VNC output https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1071

11:56 <wlb> weston Merge request !1072 opened by Philipp Zabel (pH5) Allow to configure VNC output size via weston.ini https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1072

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14:15 <wlb> weston Merge request !1073 opened by Andrey Makeev (amaksoft) compositor: don't pass the signal flags to autolaunched process https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1073

14:16 <wlb> weston Merge request !1073 closed (compositor: don't pass the signal flags to autolaunched process)

14:23 <wlb> weston Merge request !1074 opened by Andrey Makeev (amaksoft) compositor: don't pass the signal flags to autolaunched process https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1074

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14:46 <wlb> weston Merge request !1074 closed (compositor: don't pass the signal flags to autolaunched process)

14:58 <wlb> weston Merge request !1075 opened by Andrey Makeev (amaksoft) compositor: don't pass the signal flags to autolaunched process https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1075

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18:42 <yshui`> output's tranform information, is it used only for direct scan out? what other uses does it have?

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