ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1257 opened by Leandro Ribeiro (leandrohrb) Fixes DRM-backend for devices without support for the KMS atomic API https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1257
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<MrCooper> nielsdg swick[m]: from the comment: "I think the Wayland situation is far less troublesome than the Windows one, tbh" :)
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<pq> The description of https://phabricator.kde.org/T16449 seems to have a very skewed view on what we aim for.
<pq> The "you must let apps completely bypass the window system at will" spirit is still very strong, and I can't blame that because we haven't yet proved that the alternative can work and be even better universally.
<zzag> pq: FTR we (krita and kwin devs) are going to have a meeting about color stuff in plasma room the next monday (june 5th) at 1pm utc https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/#plasma:kde.org
<zzag> feel free to join us
<pq> I wonder if I want to even join, because I get the feeling that no amount of discussion is going to persuade the opposition that claims that "compositors cannot get it right".
<pq> 1pm utc is a good time though
<pq> so maybe I will
<pq> thanks for the invite!
<pq> is that video/audio or text chat?
<zzag> text chat
<pq> ...I have no recollection what I used the last time to connect to matrix
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<zzag> you can use irc too
<zzag> #plasma on libera.chat
<pq> is that a good idea? I found my app.element.io account I used for the GNOME hackfest.
<pq> The phab ticket seems to be mostly concerned about system performance in the end. Are they thinking that compositors will do color management pixel ops on CPU instead of GPU, or where does that come from...
<pq> I may have joined the right matrix channel?
<zzag> yeah, you joined the right channel. and yeah, joining from the irc side would be fine too
<pq> cool, thanks
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<pq> Windows docs certainly are confusing the terms "absolute luminance" and "scene-referred".
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<wlb> weston Issue #758 opened by Gianluca S. (gianluca.sabena) Weston 12 rdp can't star visual studio code (electron) https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/758
<wlb> weston Merge request !1235 merged \o/ (ivi-layout: add description for layer_add_surface https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1235)
<wlb> weston/main: Tomohito Esaki * ivi-layout: add description for layer_add_surface https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/c9866dea6c9f ivi-shell/ivi-layout-export.h
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<swick[m]> pq: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/wcs/display-calibration-mhc MHC ICC profiles are nice and compositors should proabbly support them
<swick[m]> but no idea how they define the luminances with backlight adjustable displays
<swick[m]> eh, they do define it, I just wonder how this is useful at all
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