ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<yrlf> danieldg: yeah, I still need xdg output because I need logical size and logical position for outputs
<yrlf> I do currently handle both orders (xdg output manager before outputs or after outputs, or somewhere between outputs)
<yrlf> and will continue to do so as this seems to be required
<danieldg> most people don't need position (and really, compositors that provide it should just put it where it belongs, in the wl_output x/y fields that are usually 0)
<danieldg> but someone decided to be clever and zero those out while not restricting xdg-output
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<yrlf> yeah, IMO the wl_output and xdg_output interfaces are a bit of a mess right now, with a bunch of duplicated information
<danieldg> and now with preferred_buffer_scale a normal client won't need to bind any outputs
<yrlf> for wl-mirror I definitely need position; I need to be able to map regions I get from slurp/cli to a region within the screenshare frames I get from screencopy / export-dmabuf / pipewire
<yrlf> but yeah, it's nice for regular clients to not have to bind outputs
<danieldg> right, if slurp only outputs absolute coordinates then it's kinda forced
<danieldg> and if you want a rectangle spanning outputs you have to use absolute
<yrlf> you can have slurp also output output-relative coordinates, but I want to support both, especially since absolute is the default
<yrlf> slurp gets the absolute coordinates from xdg_output.logical_position, and tries to use wl_output.geometry x and y if xdg_output isn't available
<yrlf> (which is IMO a reasonable fallback)
<yrlf> I think I haven't implemented that fallback in wl-mirror yet, I should probably do that
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<wlb> wayland Issue #428 closed \o/ (User help with Xkb https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/issues/428)
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