10:49 <yrlf> generally, a few things in the wayland space that desktop compositors need seem to be converging on dbus, e.g. the XDG Desktop Portal for screenshare and global hotkeys

10:49 <yrlf> @latex

15:40 <graywolf> Hello. Could someone recommend some reading for switching to wayland? Looking for somewhat practical guide (what is replacement for xrandr, xinput, xdotool, ...).

15:40 <wb9688> It depends on your compositor

15:41 <graywolf> uhh... there are no portable tools under wayland? I do not know the compositor (yet), wanted to try a bunch

15:47 <soreau> there are portable tools backed by protocols but not all compositors support the same protocols

15:50 <graywolf> That sounds... complicated. Thanks anyway, so I guess I need to pick compositor first without trying it (well, I can just read the docs and check youtube), then port my scripting directly to it instead to a "wayland".

15:54 <soreau> yes, wayfire and sway have some interesting scripting options if you choose that route, plus they are wlroots compositors which means a lot of interesting tools and features

15:57 <graywolf> I am currently on i3, so sway is one of the candidates. Maybe one more question: Do screen sharing work in wayland (or sway? Unsure what I should ask :D )? I know that collegues had troubles sharing a single monitor (as oposed to whole screen or a window). So I wonder if that got better.

15:57 <graywolf> Also I am not sure if that is "wayland thing", "sway thing", "firefox thing" or "wlroots thing" so unsure where to look

15:58 <soreau> short answer: screensharing works via xdg portal and friends

15:58 <graywolf> I see. Well I am off to google that :)

15:58 <graywolf> Thank you

16:03 <wb9688> graywolf: But on wlroots single window screen sharing doesn't work AFAIK

16:07 <soreau> wb9688: I think they meant share tab? and also share a single output instead of all outputs

16:08 <graywolf> I would like to share (in xrandr terminology) just HDMI-A-0 and not eDP. IIRC collegues had troubles with that under wayland, but I could be mistaken.

16:09 <soreau> you might be mistaken, or the compositor you were using is treating all outputs as one screen. In wlroots, the outputs are separate unless the compositor combines them somehow

16:11 <graywolf> Oh, nice. Just to make sure, while wayland is supposed to be keylogger and everything resistant, the compositor can still intercept all the keypresses, correct?

16:11 <soreau> sure

16:12 <graywolf> Right, so I will just have to patch whatever compositor I chose to support xcape funcionality, I assume that will not be that harc.

16:12 <graywolf> hard

16:12 <graywolf> Thanks :)

16:15 <wb9688> Wayfire allows almost everything in plugins

18:30 <soreau> a small enhancement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX7xPQBZYE4

18:30 <soreau> I label the performance improvement 'shmokin'

18:36 <psykose> wow that's cool

18:47 <bl4ckb0ne> more like smoke powerpoint on the left

18:49 <soreau> :-)