ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1531 opened by Chien Phung (chienpv) backend-drm: Take screenshot with DMA buffer using writeback connector https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1531
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<wlb> wayland-protocols/main: Matthias Klumpp * staging: Add xdg-toplevel-icon protocol for dedicated toplevel icons https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/commit/e3c6a17a6f99 staging/xdg-toplevel-icon/README staging/xdg-toplevel-icon/xdg-toplevel-icon-v1.xml meson.build
<vyivel> hm?
<wlb> wayland-protocols Issue #52 closed \o/ (Window and application icons https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/52)
<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !269 merged \o/ (staging: Add xdg-toplevel-icon to allow windows to set dedicated icons https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/269)
<vyivel> nvm gitlab is a bit too slow
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<bookworm> \o/
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<pq> whot, could you verify your user ID at keys.openpgp.org? Otherwise they don't distribute your user ID, which means gpg will not import the key.
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1532 opened by Loïc Molinari (molinari) gl-renderer: Improve wireframe rendering https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1532
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1533 opened by Derek Foreman (derekf) Rework placeholder rendering for weston-direct and content censoring https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1533 [Core compositor], [GL renderer]
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<mclasen> I was pointed at a two week old discussion in this channel, and I must say, I am unhappy with the way things are handled here
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<mclasen> and merging the toplevel icons protocol in its current state and without sufficient agreement sets a bad precedent
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<dwfreed> mclasen: do you have anything helpful to add?
<mclasen> no
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<JoshuaAshton> mclasen: If you are speaking for Gnome, then you had multiple weeks to NACK if you did not wish it to be included.
<mclasen> I always speak for myself
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<mclasen> it is a bad, but mostly harmless protocol. the damage is all on the community side
<JoshuaAshton> What is bad about it?
<mclasen> if anything short of a nack is ignored, there isn't much community left
<mclasen> it uses buffers without surfaces, it drags icon names into wayland, etc etc
<mclasen> I'm not going to go through the whole list
<mclasen> since I would only be told that that has all been covered in those 500 comments
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<JoshuaAshton> I mean yeah, that was discussed in the 500 comments and you didn't take part, the tl;dr is that surfaces have a lot of of other baggage, subsurfaces, metadata, other protocols used with them that wouldn't make sense for something that's really just pixeldata passed to another shell rendering process.
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<mclasen> you are wrong. I did participate at some point and I was told that my feedback was "last minute drive-by comments"
<JoshuaAshton> I was specifically referring to the "using buffers without surfaces" part
<mclasen> if there was a surface, you could use a viewporter. Instead, there's yet another integer scale manually associated with a buffer
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<colinmarc> on that topic, why are cursors surfaces but not icons? Is it just different historical decisions?
<colinmarc> I have no opinion on this, just curious about the difference
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<bl4ckb0ne> whats wrong with wl_buffers