ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<King_DuckZ>
hello, could someone help with what daniels wrote yesterday? "you need to make libweston consider your format be transparent"
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<swick[m]>
zamundaaa: that would be super helpful
<swick[m]>
I'll try to create some documentation about where to find all the different specs
<daniels>
King_DuckZ: in libweston/pixel-formats.[ch], pixel_format_is_opaque() tells Weston if a format should be considered transparent or opaque. if it's opaque, areas behind it will not be drawn, which could explain the artifacts
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<King_DuckZ>
daniels: thank you mate!
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<daniels>
np :)
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<WhyNotHugo>
Has there been discussion of a [priviledged] protocol for tracking mouse position (even when unfocused)?
<WhyNotHugo>
A few use cases: (1) neko, (2) showing highlights when clicking (I'd use this for presentations), (3) highlighting mouse position in response to some event (an old-school accesibility feature).
<any1>
w-p!124 can do this, but it also does a lot more
<daniels>
yeah, highlighting mouse position would really be a compositor feature, rather than an external client
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<WhyNotHugo>
I thought you were kidding, but ext_screencopy_cursor_session_v1 seems perfectly usable to capture ONLY the cursor without having to capture anything else.
<WhyNotHugo>
However, I can't subscribe to click events.
<WhyNotHugo>
But I think that the protocol in its current state is usable for a neko implementation.
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<bl4ckb0ne>
whats neko?
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<King_DuckZ>
cat in japanese
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<King_DuckZ>
from the context I guess that cute cat that follow your mouse?
<colinmarc>
is there a trick for spawning a different xwayland rootful for each X11 client that tries to connect? My (kiosk-like) compositor currently uses rootless xwayland via smithay. But since it's only handling fullscreen apps, I wanted to see if I could do rootful. The problem is that the original app might spawn a X11 app on top, or that X11 app might spawn another one on top (steam launching a game, for example)
<colinmarc>
I'm probably missing something about how rootful is meant to be used, I find the distinction pretty confusing
<danieldg>
I believe rootful needs an X11 window manager
<colinmarc>
both do, no?
<danieldg>
you could probably do something like move or replace the unix socket for the X server
<danieldg>
sorry, I'm not much help here
<colinmarc>
hm... it's a listening socket, so I guess on accept I could spawn off another xwayland?
<danieldg>
yep
<colinmarc>
is there any prior art for that I could peer at?
<danieldg>
someone has possibly tried doing this to sandbox X11 apps from each other
<WhyNotHugo>
I fiddled with this very little, but you can run `Xwayland :1` on one terminal and then launch a client in another with `DISPLAY=:1`
<danieldg>
it's useful for dealing with apps that work better when they believe they are fullscreen
<WhyNotHugo>
AFAIK, clients of different Xwayland instances are basically on different X11 servers, so can't snoop on each other (I'd double check tho)
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<danieldg>
right, they can't snoop unless they open up sockets to the server (so sandbox them if you actually want security)
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