01:13 <steev> i just don't particularly like that form factor, so i won't be

01:14 <steev> my plan is to (eventually) get a T14s

01:14 <HdkR> The T14s shop page got mangled yesterday so I got my hopes up that they were adding configurations. Nope. Disappointed

01:19 <clee> my only real complaints about the Yoga overall are: the left/right buttons are double the size of the up/down buttons, and the pinhole "BIOS" button on the bottom shell. but being able to use F12 for "boot menu" has made the second one less painful.

01:19 <steev> now that it's not preorder, the fnf discount applies, but i still wanna see how much the 64GB version will be first

01:19 <clee> seems like the arrow key size thing is endemic to the whole lineup

01:19 <steev> f12 for bios has been pretty standard on lenovo for a while

01:20 <steev> wait, are you saying f2 won't get you into bios but f12 will get you boot menu?

01:20 <clee> I didn't try F2, I tried Esc and F1 and neither of those worked

01:20 <steev> try f2

01:20 <clee> I can try F2, one moment

01:21 <clee> huh, F2 totally works. why didn't they document that in the menu with the "use the button through this pinhole to access the BIOS" section?

01:21 <clee> *manual, not menu

01:23 <steev> lordy

01:23 <clee> well, that completely removes the need to ever use that pinhole button, so now my complaint is just the arrow keys. the T14s keyboard *does* look a bit better…

01:23 <steev> the t14s is your standard thinkpad keyboard

01:23 <clee> sure looks like it

01:25 <HdkR> Pretty much the only thing I dislike about thinkpad layout is the pageup and pagedown buttons. I always configure those to be disabled so I don't accidentally touch them

01:25 <steev> that's fair

01:25 <steev> i've definitely tapped them a time or two when i haven't meant to

01:26 <HdkR> I am glad they fixed the fn/ctrl layout from X13s to T14s as well. That one wasn't great

01:26 <HdkR> X13s at least had the BIOS option to fix that

01:27 <steev> as someone who has a c630, flex5g and x13s... it annoys me that only 2 of them match keyboard layout of the fn/ctrl keys

01:27 <HdkR> :D

01:28 <HdkR> Apple also messes up the fn/ctrl layout and there's a config to fix it on their end as well

01:28 <HdkR> It gets /really/ confusing when switching between MacOS and a VM when ctrl, fn, and super are all shuffling around

01:39 <steev> god yes

01:39 <steev> i was doing my performance regression work in vms on a mac

01:40 <steev> it was so incredibly frustrating trying to remember which key combo i needed to use to copy and paste and when, as well as sometimes it just... not bothering to copy the contents and ending up pasting the older paste

01:43 <HdkR> :D

16:23 <maz> mani_s: please report any odd behaviour on the list, with a full trace of what is happening.

16:26 <abelvesa> gabertron: disable mdss in CRD dt and try again. If display is up, then we can figure out from there...

17:13 <gabertron> abelvesa: sure will try -- what repo / branch would you suggest?

19:30 <abelvesa> gabertron: if you want bleeding edge, try this one: https://git.codelinaro.org/abel.vesa/linux.git branch x1e80100-next

19:32 <abelvesa> gabertron: if you want something rc based, use jhovold's one: https://github.com/jhovold/linux.git branch wip/sc8280xp-6.10-rc6

19:33 <abelvesa> gabertron: jhovold's one is more stable, more tested. Mine is still development/upstreaming tree (for now).

19:34 <steev> stability during board bringup? insanity

19:48 <jhovold> abelvesa: I think you meant https://github.com/jhovold/linux/tree/wip/x1e80100-6.10-rc6-gpu

19:48 <jhovold> that branch has x1e support

19:50 <kalebris> how far is x1e support currently? is there some status page i can follow?

19:54 <abelvesa> jhovold: yeah .. sorry

19:56 <steev> kalebris: i don't think anyone in the community has, but linaro might have one