05:46 <gabertron> for the x1e laptops does mainline mesa work with them?

07:56 <konradybcio> gabertron: either you need to recompile mesa or the kernel.. https://pastebin.com/raw/euuvRH6Z the latter is probably more convenient

07:56 <konradybcio> this makes mesa think this gpu is a740 (which well, it almost is anyway)

08:04 <Nios34[m]> Is it possible to upgrade from win10 to win11 on arm machines?

08:07 <Jasper[m]> Nios34[m]: iirc the 8c and up can do it, but you need to check the requirements

08:08 <Nios34[m]> Yeah, I own a lenovo 81xe but the system is out of date

08:09 <Jasper[m]> Nios34[m]: You could check what winupdate says

08:16 <Nios34[m]> I'm running on 20H2 and catching up with all the updates for now

08:16 <Nios34[m]> 😔😔 WinUpdate is just painful

09:01 <Dylanger> Has anyone managed to boot Linux on the newer Surface Laptops yet?

11:18 <spawacz> Can I check the battery state of x13s on kernel 6.9?

11:19 <spawacz> via /sys maybe

11:49 <Jasper[m]> <spawacz> "Can I check the battery state of..." <- As in current charge?

11:49 <Jasper[m]> Or (not) charging?

12:25 <kalebris> Jasper[m]: can any of those be deduced somehow?

12:26 <Jasper[m]> kalebris: You can already do it, but you need to have a systemd service installed and running

12:27 <kalebris> oh the pd-mapper thing

12:27 <Jasper[m]> Yes

12:27 <Jasper[m]> That and linux-firmware

12:43 <spawacz> both, actually

12:47 <Jasper[m]> <kalebris> "oh the pd-mapper thing" <- If you install them and have them running successfully you can get it from the normal places

12:47 <Jasper[m]> KDE and GNOME's applets will already pick them up

13:05 <kalebris> yeah, waybar picks it up as well, although a bit oddly

14:02 <adamcstephens> colemickens: i'm happy to help test any ISOs once you figure out the DTB loading

14:19 <robclark> re: battery (and other things the remoteproc does) on x13s, recently I've been having to manually `echo start > /sys/class/remoteproc/remoteproc0/state`

15:12 <jhovold> robclark: fwiw, haven't noticed anything like that here, sounds like something in your setup (e.g. adsp fw not being available in initramfs)

15:33 <robclark> yeah, probably

15:33 <robclark> would be kinda nice if the kernel realized when the real rootfs was in place and re-tried things that failed due to lack of hw

15:34 <robclark> s/hw/fw/

16:26 <colemickens> <adamcstephens> "colemickens: i'm happy to help..." <- I'm probably punting on all of that after all, and just going with a nixos-generator's raw disk image. I'll provision to that to a new NVME and test with it.

16:26 <colemickens> I really have no interest in dealing with grub, or the bespoke grub setup used for the iso.

17:42 <colemickens> also, I still need to make a linux-firmware package.

17:42 <colemickens> Is someone here willing to upload one? Or send me a zip of the Yoga7x firmware files at least and I'll make one?

17:59 <bluerise> I can, what do you need?

18:16 <steev> robclark: iirc they tried to do that before and it made linus very unhappy (i could be misremembering)

18:16 <JensGlathe[m]> It's a PITA though

18:18 <robclark> steev: it should probably be userspace (like, maybe systemd) notifying the kernel rather than the kernel trying to figure it out for itself.. idk what they tried before. Like maybe `echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/devices_deferred` triggers a reprobe of deferred devices. (Although at that point, it should probably not be debugfs)

19:33 <colemickens> bluerise: ideally, just a linux-firmware repo with the yoga7x files added. Short of that, a zip of the yoga7x files, and then I'll integrate them and throw up a `linux-firmware-sd` repo under some anonymous name just because I doubt the windows driver files come with a redist license.

20:20 <steev> colemickens: you could always check if lenovo hosts them as support downloads

20:37 <colemickens> they don't even have a support/download page up. which, I know they're going to be slow about, and not use LVFS, and I'm annoyed at the idea of giving them my money. But alas.

21:02 <steev> they don't charge for downloads?

21:06 <JensGlathe[m]> my X13s says it installs QCOM Firmware 4.0.2.8 - had it just booted on Windows out of curiosity

21:07 <steev> that's the 5g modem firmware

21:07 <steev> https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/ScopedViewInline.aspx?updateid=936cf488-f161-41bb-9be9-529cadf4b069#Overview

21:08 <JensGlathe[m]> yeah it also says new driver for it

21:14 <colemickens> I meant more that I want to give money to manufacturers that support LVFS. Also, it seems I was wrong, they have a Downloads page and recovery media, they just identify it as "Slim 7 [part number]" instead of Slim 7x like I expected.

21:18 <steev> i don't think any of the x1e manufs support lvfs yet (afaik, no technical reasons they can't)

21:19 <robclark> afaict lenovo does support lvfs .. at least for things that "officially" support linux. (Which doesn't _yet_ include any of the aarch64 laptops.)