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<BenTheTechGuy>
Are any other Debian users experiencing issues with qemu-user-static? I'm getting this any time I try to work in a non-ARM64 chroot:
<BenTheTechGuy>
I see the issue in https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/1147, but that was fixed long before the QEMU version currently in Debian was released. I can't find any reports in the Debian BTS either.
<psykose>
which version do you haved
<BenTheTechGuy>
8.0.4 (Debian version 1:8.0.4+dfsg-1)
<psykose>
hm
<psykose>
should be fixed then so it might be something else causing the same thing
<psykose>
that or the qemu-user-static you are running is not actually the same one that reports that version
<BenTheTechGuy>
this looks to be post-issue-fix-commit
<psykose>
whadya mean by that
<BenTheTechGuy>
going to the source that Debian is using, that file does have the commit applied that fixed the issue I referenced earlier
<BenTheTechGuy>
also I couldn't find any patches being applied that reference that file, so Debian isn't modifying the source in a way that would mess up this fix AFAICT
<BenTheTechGuy>
Could this be a 16K vs 4K page issue?
<BenTheTechGuy>
Does Debian have a 4K page Asahi kernel available for me to test?
<psykose>
ah
<psykose>
the fix commit was in 8.0 so it's not patched no
<psykose>
and no it doesn't look page size related and it's supposed to work on 16k fine
<BenTheTechGuy>
no, it's patched
<BenTheTechGuy>
I'm on 8.0.4 and going to Debian's source for that version it's patched
<psykose>
?
<psykose>
i mean it's not specifically backported, i.e. 8.0.4 already has the above fix in it
<psykose>
not any other debian patches
<BenTheTechGuy>
oh
<BenTheTechGuy>
what I meant was there are no patches I could find that would interfere with the fix commit that's already in the source (being 8.0)
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<mps>
jannau: thanks again. (though I don't use udev but this will be useful for alpine linux)
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<mps>
built tiny-dfr and I see that I'm missing firmware. which macos version is needed to extract firmware for apple-z2
<_jannau__>
I think it should work with 12.3 and 13.5. not sure if you have to do a fresh install or if running asahi-fwextract is enough
<mps>
I installed macos somewhere after new year but I think it is 12.3 at least
<mps>
will check now
<_jannau__>
this has noting to do with macos, support for extracting the touchbar firmware was only added recently to asahi-installer/fwextract. I don't remember if the fw files are among the ones we copy during install. I think so but only after a certain point
<_jannau__>
so it's not guaranteed that asahi-fwectract will work
<mps>
macos is 13.1
<mps>
now I have to remind self where firmware resides on macos
<mps>
but first to upgrade m1n1 and kernel for alpine
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<mps>
hm, I can't find any file with name dfrmtfw-*.bin on macos 13.1
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<mps>
maybe upgrade of macos could help
<ChaosPrincess>
the file you want is /System/Volumes/Preboot/${uuid}/boot/${hash}/usr/standalone/firmware/FUD/Multitouch.img4
<mps>
J293_Multitouch.im4p ?
<ChaosPrincess>
if thats from the ipsw, then yea, sounds like the right file
<jannau>
if your install is new enough it should be included in ${ESP}/asahi/all_firmware.tar.gz and a recent asahi-fwextract should extract it
<jannau>
or you could do a fresh uefi-only install
<mps>
my current macos is 13.1 but I just started upgrade to 13.5.1
<jannau>
this has nothing to do with the on device macos install
<mps>
yes, on esp there is J293_Multitouch.im4p in all_firmware.tar
<jannau>
I see we haven't bumped asahi-fwextract yet, but asahi-fwextract 0.57 or later will prepare the touchbar firmware
<mps>
I built it with `cargo build --release --all-features`
<_jannau__>
it needs uinput in the kernel
<mps>
aha, lets look
<mps>
right, I didn't enabled it
<mps>
nice, it works now
<mps>
jannau: ChaosPrincess: thank you for help
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<mps>
I changed a little my daemon to control keyboard backlight on X and now it can control backlight of touchbar
<ChaosPrincess>
mps: unless you know what you are doing, just let the daemon do it's thing, or at least do not interfere with the auto-dimming. its an oled screen, and those dont really like being blasted at full power with static images.
<mps>
ChaosPrincess: does tiny-dfr can be run as daemon?
<ChaosPrincess>
its supposed to be run as a daemon, yes.
<mps>
hm, I don't see option for this, it stays foreground in my case
<ChaosPrincess>
or are you on a systemd-less distro
<mps>
yes, I don't have systemd
<mps>
openrc on alpinej
<mps>
alpine*
<ChaosPrincess>
is alpine's openrc the same as gentoo's?
<mps>
I'm trying to make this but you saved me time
<ChaosPrincess>
im running gentoo with systemd, and so it does the behavior that systemd expects
<mps>
ChaosPrincess: ok, it works. but it doesn't toggle backlight, just dim after some time
<ChaosPrincess>
yea, thats expected, it automatically dims after 30 (iirc) seconds of system inactivity, and then after 30 more shuts off the backlight completely
<ChaosPrincess>
sorta like what macos is doing
<mps>
right
<mps>
I thought it can be controlled by some parameters
<mps>
but is good as it is now
<ChaosPrincess>
hardcoded for now, if there is demand, i can make it configurable
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<mps>
last thing I don't know is how to disable cursor on it
<mps>
i.e. working as pointer
<ChaosPrincess>
have you installed the udev rules from the repo
<mps>
yes, but I don't use udev
<ChaosPrincess>
thats problematic, what do you use for seat management
<mps>
nothing, I run X with startx from console
<ChaosPrincess>
no elogind, or anything like that?
<mps>
nothing
<ChaosPrincess>
i am not sure what to do then, but the supported way is to assign the touchscreen input device to a separate seat
<ChaosPrincess>
thats what the udev rules do
<mps>
my effort is to make machines with minimal things
<ChaosPrincess>
yea, idk how to do it on systems that do not have working seat management, if you figure it out - let me know.
<mps>
sure ;)
<mps>
and thanks again
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<jannau>
I guess explicit Xorg config ignoring the device is the option for systems without seat management
<mps>
ChaosPrincess: I found simple solution, disable pointer device with xinput
<mps>
buttons works while pointer doesn't
<mps>
jannau: I think xorg config would be better solution
<mps>
and there is another issue, when machine is suspended backlight of touchbar stays active
<mps>
not sure but looks like closing LID disables backlight
<ChaosPrincess>
yes, thats a thing that should happen
<ChaosPrincess>
by not disabling when suspended - do you mean a suspend from the menu, not via lid close?
<jannau>
backlight on on suspend is probably missing suspend support in the driver
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<mps>
ChaosPrincess: suspend by pressing power button which is set to write 'echo mem > /sys/power/state'