00:57 <wookey> which package is asahi-fwupdate in? it's not found on my machine

01:09 <chadmed> wookey: it's part of asahi-scripts

04:17 <chadmed> wookey: what distro are you using out of interest

06:05 <runxiyu_> chadmed_: I'm using sway

06:05 <runxiyu_> mps: Just for reference, what wm/de are you using on Alpine?

06:05 <runxiyu_> chaos_princess: Interesting as I've found Asahi Fedora's trackpad to be entirely usable

06:09 <mps> runxiyu_: I use xorg with awesome wm for my work, but I tested sway and hyprland on apple silicon with asahi kernel. touchpad behavior is nearly same

06:10 <mps> also tested KDE earlier

06:14 <mps> btw, iwd 2.22 started to segfault when I upgraded to 6.11. reverted iwd 2.20 and it is stable again. iwd 2.22 is stable on other arm64 machine (samsung chromebook) with 6.11 kernel

06:15 <mps> not sure what is issue but tend to think it is iwd

06:23 <mps> I've got loongarch64 machine and contemplating to switch to it for daily workflow

06:24 <runxiyu_> Ah, hmm

08:08 <j`ey> chadmed: im assuming debian, theyre a debian dev

08:47 <cy8aer> chadmed: wookey If it is really debian it is asahi-scripts.

08:48 <cy8aer> https://packages.debian.org/trixie/all/asahi-scripts/filelist

08:49 <cy8aer> (testing)

09:27 <chadmed_> i would expect something like the kernel to depend on asahi-scripts since it has update-m1n1

09:32 <cy8aer> depends on the kernel used. My kernel for example has a post install routine calling update-m1n1.

09:34 <cy8aer> But there are other kernels without the post install. And I have a meta package which depends on the kernel and asahi-scripts and m1n1 and u-boot. But this is not default on other implementations. There are actual efforts to have the kernel upstream but until this is done we have a zoo of implementations.

11:12 <chadmed> cy8aer: there should be no circumstance where asahi-scripts is not installed on an apple silicon machine tbh, if alternative debian implementations arent making sure the system hard depends on it then theyre broken

11:13 <cy8aer> yep that is what I mean

11:14 <cy8aer> e.g. the Glanzman distribution pre calculates m1n1 and does not use update-m1n1.

11:14 <cy8aer> So there is a dependency between a new kernel and m1n1.

11:15 <chadmed> i mean thats valid but the asahi-scripts package _needs_ to be installed

11:15 <cy8aer> from my point of view: right.

11:16 <cy8aer> (and also from the point of view of the bananas team who prepare the upstream stuff)

14:42 <wookey> cy8aer: aha. I am set to bookworm so don't have that package. I guess it's time to move to testing and more stuff will work.

14:46 <cy8aer> wookey this may probably the best.

14:47 <cy8aer> You may love rolling dists then ;-)

17:49 <tobhe_> wookey: you might want to join #debian-bananas too