04:53 <zerdox> hello :) i am currently updating my kernel from 6.11 to 6.12 and for some reason make modules_install no longer lists zstd modules. looks like i am doing everything as in my previous updates, but something has changed. when i boot i only see black screen, any ideas? i don't remember the error when i boot in safe mode but i guess i just doing something wrong now

04:58 <chadmed> your kernel config is probably screwed up

04:58 <zerdox> prev times i always did cp .config from last kernel folder and make olddefconfig

05:01 <zerdox> i'll try another one

07:14 <noisycoil[m]1> @zerdox IIRC in going from 6.11 to 6.12 some module compression configs were changed, maybe it's related to that? Let me see if I can find a bug report

07:16 <noisycoil[m]1> From the Debian BTS: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1089515#12

07:17 <noisycoil[m]1> There's a new MODULE_COMPRESS config

07:48 <psykose> olddefconfig always breaks in ways like that when config values get moved around and the default is not what you would pick

07:48 <psykose> better to use oldconfig and pick options

07:53 <Tramtrist> ya olddef from a point release causes trouble in my experience

08:03 <chadmed> i just do make menuconfig, save, make

08:04 <Tramtrist> 🤔

08:04 <psykose> isn't that identical to olddefconfig

08:04 <psykose> or does menu prompt new options

08:05 <Tramtrist> ya was gonna say.. it runs one of those commands in the background, no?

08:05 <psykose> i've only ever used it from non-old funnily

08:06 <Tramtrist> by the way.. seems most of the asahi chat action happens in Matrix now.... is there any... intent or logic or did it just kinda happen

08:07 <Tramtrist> marcan used to be pretty intentional about IRC being the 'official' chat method or something if I remember...

08:07 <Tramtrist> Just curious

08:07 <Tramtrist> Guessing cause thats where the Fedora people are

08:24 <j`ey> just happened

08:31 <Tramtrist> ya thats what i figured