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<twoscomplement0b[m]> Hi everyone, I'm new here.
<twoscomplement0b[m]> Just checking this out as I'd like to contribute to asahi although I have no previous experience :)
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<citizen1[m]> hello
<citizen1[m]> you can contribute with money if you dont know how to code, i dont, so i donate
<i509vcb[m]> This is general to all open source projects, find something you are interested in, or figure out some bug, test things, write documentation, etc.
<i509vcb[m]> And of course ask around if you are confused
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<citizen1[m]> have you considered having an open collective for Asahi? maybe it's better than Patreon... idk . i see it popular with foss projects
<j_ey> citizen1[m]: i think its unlikely to make much of a difference
<citizen1[m]> just a suggestion
<citizen1[m]> news says google is making their own ARM chips for chrome books. Does this mean there needs to be another project to install linux on the Google chip or Asahi m1 will be good for both?! how does this work?
<j_ey> asahi is only for the apple chips
<j_ey> im sure google will be upstreaming to linux for their stuff
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<citizen1[m]> 👍🏼
<j_ey> sven: these nodes https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/commit/1bcf60493e4ee4502daf476f6162794de63d6d17 .. are they for the USBC ports? or USBA ones ont he mini
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<alyssa> j_ey: USB-C
<alyssa> the USB-A ones are accessed over PCIe and hence not enumerated in the DT
<alyssa> (ditto for the Ethernet)
<j_ey> ok thanks alyssa
<alyssa> (and both usb-a and ethernet use standard xhci/tg3 drivers for linux, not apple quirks there thankfully .. which makes sense given the history of Apple's chips)
<j_ey> I dont think I have a USB C device.. other than the mac itself
<sven> which means you actually get usb 3 on the xhci (type A) ports but not on the USB C ports :(
<dottedmag> Is there a good write-up how all this negotiation works? I'm quite curious what happens when I plug, say, TB3 cable into laptop and monitor - how do they agree on the protocol?
<dottedmag> There's a spec, but it's quite intimidating.
<sven> i've been avoiding that spec as well so far
<marcan> alyssa: don't speak about apple quirks that fast... tg3 on my intel iMac is unstable, especially with the IOMMU turned on :p
<marcan> instead of apple quirks we may have to deal with broken broadcom silicon :p
<marcan> sven: we already had to deal with that spec for the serial port stuff :p
<sven> yeah, and i'm quite glad that I could remain at a safe distance from that spec :D
<marcan> dottedmag: https://www.ti.com/lit/wp/slyy109a/slyy109a.pdf is probably as close to something digestible as you're going to get
<dottedmag> marcan: Sounds pretty readable. Thanks a lot.
<dottedmag> *Looks
<alyssa> marcan: rip
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<dottedmag> sven: At least the specs are there if you ever need them. I have tried to find recent DisplayPort spec. Ugh.
<dottedmag> marcan: STM article is exactly what I needed. Thanks.
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<krbtgt> win 45
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