#asahi on 2023-03-05 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-03-01 05:50 marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi

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00:29 <mort_> I think it would make sense if asahi set sddm to use the breeze theme by default, the breeze theme is installed so it's just about putting [Theme] Current=breeze in a config file

00:30 <bluetail9> I just use emptty cause I don't like too be bound by sddm/gdm or whatever

00:30 <mort_> yeah that's fair, I'm just talking about making a good first impression for people who choose the desktop setup

00:31 <bluetail9> once I removed kde-plasma and started using i3 my network usage went down a lot and cpu usage too. When I looked at it I saw that there was a kernel dump written temporarily every now and then

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01:03 <ayke_> mort_: that's odd, for me it is far more efficient

01:03 <mort_> ayke_: is that with an m1 pro or an m1?

01:04 <ayke_> M1 pro

01:04 <ayke_> 16" (but that shouldn't matter)

01:04 <ayke_> Have you checked whether there are any processes hogging the CPU?

01:04 <mort_> yeah, cpu usage looks good

01:05 <mort_> firefox is more stuttery too though than it was in macos, as if something is struggling to keep up (I am using firefox with wayland with MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 and I'm using the mesa env vars to make it think it has a recent enough OpenGL to run hardware accelerated webrender)

01:06 <ayke_> Battery life is certainly not as good as on MacOS, but shouldn't be that bad

01:07 <ayke_> I'm using X11 as KDE and Firefox are a bit too buggy for me on Wayland

01:07 <mort_> it could be as simple as not having hardware video decoding, I'm guessing that stuff isn't up and running yet

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01:08 <ayke_> If you're watching videos, yeah that could be an issue. The only reason software decoding works as well as it does is because the CPU is so fast.

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01:10 <ayke_> Also not sure whether forcing WebRender would be a good idea for battery life

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01:14 <ayke_> Also: for me it's usually cool to the touch unless I do something that taxes the CPU (like rebuilding LLVM)

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09:47 <mort_> weirdly, wifi never automatically connects for me, even though my wifi networks are set as automatically connect in the kde network settings

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14:05 <mort_> how is the lid state exposed to userspace? It seems like most laptops do it through acpi

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14:08 <jn> in my limited experience, the userspace interface that acpid consumes is not ACPI (as the name would imply), but /dev/input

14:18 <mort_> you're probably right, /proc/bus/input/devices lists input2 as "Apple SMC power/lid events"

14:19 <povik> indeed, here's the kernel driver code

14:19 <povik> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/blob/2fb9510f953092b1cc94e0cb26713f2f152754f8/drivers/input/misc/macsmc-hid.c#L85

14:21 <mort_> since sleep mode doesn't work, I'm gonna be writing a daemon which sends SIGSTOP to processes when the lid closes and SIGCONT when it opens

14:23 <sven> there’s no acpi in these machines fwiw so you’ll also have to look for an alternative mechanism

14:23 <sven> s/also/always/

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14:53 <ChaosPrincess> mort_: isnt that literally what s2idle does?

14:53 <ChaosPrincess> and those support s2idle

14:55 <mort_> ChaosPrincess: I thought proper sleep mode wasn't supported on asahi yet?

14:56 <ChaosPrincess> proper s3 sleep is not supported

14:56 <ChaosPrincess> but s2idle, which is is just freezing all userspace and getting cores to lowest pstate does

14:57 <sven> s2idle sometimes breaks systemd though because the code right now doesn’t freeze a clock that should be frozen

14:58 <mort_> I did see the kde option to go to sleep when the lid is closed, I tried it and it just froze the system and I had to do a hard restart

14:58 <mort_> I just assumed that was the lacking sleep support I had read about

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15:32 <ayke_> I've had trouble with sleep not always awaking properly, so I didn't enable it. But sometimes it does work.

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15:35 <ayke_> marcan: any chance you could set up something other than GitHub sponsors? They dropped PayPal support today.

15:35 <marcan> patreon has paypal AIUI

15:39 <ayke_> Oh, you also have Patreon? Wasn't aware of that.

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19:21 <winter> does the vendor firmware in the reference Asahi distro get loaded any time after initrd? I see the dracut hooks for getting it into the initrd, but nothing in asahi-scripts or PKGBUILDs to load it/extract it in/for the rootfs

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19:27 <winter> oops, missed the dracut hook that does exactly that

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19:27 <winter> (install-asahi-firmware)

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20:20 <sel5> how do I get idevicerestore to fix the m1 macbook pro? the error is "ERROR: Device failed to enter restore mode. Please make sure that usbmuxd is running."

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20:21 <sel5> github issue: https://github.com/libimobiledevice/idevicerestore/issues/411

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20:34 <mort_> it seems like Fedora has showed a whole lot of interest in Asahi, that's great

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23:48 <aratuk> New base distro when? (And will I get banned for asking? 😶)

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